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Post by danielwhit on May 10, 2017 20:48:33 GMT
Is it me, or has a lot of the iambic tongue been chopped?
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Post by peggs on May 10, 2017 21:44:11 GMT
Having seen in as a play can't be objective and tell how this worked as tv but it was good to revisit this and it provoked all the same emotions if not quite to the same intimacy.
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Post by n1david on May 10, 2017 22:05:29 GMT
Is it me, or has a lot of the iambic tongue been chopped? I think you're right. More of this seemed to be in 'regular text' rather than the rather splendid language of the stage play. I also think it lost something by having realistic locations, which undermined the more hypothetical, playful tone of the stage play. Nonetheless, I enjoyed it very much, but not as much as when I saw it at the Almeida. |
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2017 22:06:46 GMT
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Post by n1david on May 10, 2017 22:08:48 GMT
Oh yes, that's the word I was stumbling towards. |
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Post by lynette on May 11, 2017 13:09:48 GMT
I really didn't go for the cod Willy quotes. I liked the 'verse' which was actually more original. You can't fault TPS, a real corker and I'm sorry I missed him in this, his last theatre role. And I liked the idea of how unsettling the Queen's death will be. I wonder.... But actually at its heart, wasn't this, despite the riots, a sentimental view of the UK and the monarchy?
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2017 13:14:44 GMT
It was a newly discovered Shakespearean history play which astonishingly foretold our present royal family.
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2017 13:18:36 GMT
I think you're right. More of this seemed to be in 'regular text' rather than the rather splendid language of the stage play. I also think it lost something by having realistic locations, which undermined the more hypothetical, playful tone of the stage play. Nonetheless, I enjoyed it very much, but not as much as when I saw it at the Almeida. I sadly didn't see the stage version, but I thought having such realistic locations added a lot towards suspending disbelief and buying into what was happening. I think l'll have to buy this. Shame the BBC haven't tried to make 'The Audience' - I think that would be wonderful too. The series 'The Crown' (recommended) has credits at the end of some episodes saying that it was inspired by 'The Audience'. |
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Post by barelyathletic on May 11, 2017 13:28:25 GMT
Ha ha ha ha ha  Christopher Stevens writes the comedy of the year. "Rank, obnoxious swill that bubbled up in the back of the throat and burned the mouth." "At least this version of history did not end, as the Russian Revolution did, with the little prince and princess in a cellar at gunpoint with their parents – though you sensed that writer Mike Bartlett would have loved to end his story that way." You can read more of this kind of hilarious claptrap here, if you can be bothered to click on anything that has the words Daily Mail in it. For once, I'm almost glad I did. Brightened up my day no end. www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-4493614/BBC-s-republican-fantasy-risible-revolutionary.html#ixzz4gmCEOifx |
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Post by wiggymess on May 11, 2017 14:00:37 GMT
I haven't seen it yet, I'll catch up on iPlayer shortly, so will reserve judgement of it until then.
I am looking forward to it though - having missed the production completely.
All this furore does tickle me - when I speak to people about the fact I have fallen in love with theatre (they're usually pretty surprised), they have a very strong idea of the closed nature of it, and that it's somehow safe in its own bubble. To a certain extent that's true, but the irony of situations like this...
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Post by Jan on May 11, 2017 17:51:36 GMT
You can read more of this kind of hilarious claptrap here, if you can be bothered to click on anything that has the words Daily Mail in it. Given the amount of times people here comment on what Baz has or hasn't said I think you'll find lots of people here are prepared to descend from the moral high ground occasionally, but probably not to read it as avidly as you simply to be outraged by it - I mean that's sort of what the Daily Mail does isn't it. |
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Post by theglenbucklaird on May 11, 2017 19:20:40 GMT
From another who did not catch the stage play, I thought it was really good. and great to see Mr Piggott-Smith again
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Post by Jon on May 11, 2017 20:10:41 GMT
The sadness of course now being that a TV sequel couldn't/shouldn't happen without Mr Piggott-Smith, which is a big shame because I think they've setup quite a good alternative future with lots of possibilities. You can sort of see Charles waiting in the wings ready to claw back the throne, perhaps as regent for little George if Katherine somehow tires of her weak willed husband and quietly does away with him, with hopes of becoming regent herself. Camilla of course will champion Charles, and perhaps become the Lady Macbeth he needed in this (surprised they had the leader of the opposition hinting at what Charles should do, rather than have Camilla as the fly in his ear). They could easily have a stage follow up, I think either concentrating on William, Kate or even an older Prince George. |
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2017 20:42:52 GMT
I watched it tonight having no seen the stage show but was really excited to watch it. I really enjlyed it. I thought it was shot really really beautifully and it was very engaging as well as being acted well. I also really loved the use of language in it as well. I do t know how I would feel about a sequel as it would work but I just feel like without Tim piggot-smith it might not work as well so maybe it would have be in quite a distant future.iI am slightly sad I never managed to see it on stage
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Post by barelyathletic on May 12, 2017 11:29:21 GMT
You can read more of this kind of hilarious claptrap here, if you can be bothered to click on anything that has the words Daily Mail in it. Given the amount of times people here comment on what Baz has or hasn't said I think you'll find lots of people here are prepared to descend from the moral high ground occasionally, but probably not to read it as avidly as you simply to be outraged by it - I mean that's sort of what the Daily Mail does isn't it. I have reasons for reading this review. You infer outrage, I actually found it highly amusing. I think the moral high ground is too crowded for me to even reach it, let alone descend. The view must be lovely though, I'm sure. |
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2017 20:29:09 GMT
Ive not seen the play and it had been a regret of mine to miss it. However based on the bbc2 adaption im less worried. Just seemed a bit meh to me with a slightly weak plot
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2017 8:08:00 GMT
Another who missed it on stage as well. Caught up with it last night and enjoyed it, found it engaging, loved the style of the writing and also quite emotional at the end. But I think the latter was really due to Tim rather than entierly the writing. What a great performance and if nothing else a bittersweet fitting final tribute to him as an actor.
As for the adaptation/piece itself it was opulent and brilliantly put together. Overall did I love it, would I rave about it? possibly not. But I will say that my opinion would probably be different of the stage play- it's clear from the (Even adapted) writing of the TV drama how good it was and it seemed well adapted for the new format. But while I was struck by the cleverness of the idea, and execution/style it didn't tip me into 'oh my this is the best thing ever' territory.
Still though, well done to the BBC for both some brave comissioning and a damn fine job of realising it.
And Tim, you are missed.
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Post by hal9000 on May 14, 2017 13:20:07 GMT
No word of KCIII reaching Australian shores so I may make do for my TPS farewell with a JEWEL IN THE CROWN marathon, or the somewhat shorter NORTH ABD SOUTH.
Or if democracy has its way, the rest of the household will likely select CLASH OF THE TITANS.
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Post by AddisonMizner on May 22, 2017 5:42:39 GMT
Finally caught up with this yesterday evening, and I thought that it was absolutely stunning! I haven't seen the play, but from my perspective, it had a brilliant premise that was so dramatically involving, acted with huge panache by the cast. The moment Charles walked into the House of Commons and dissolved parliament was absolutely thrilling! However, that was just one moment among many highlights. Visually, it looked stunning as well. I thought the use of iambic pentameter was a master stroke.
Catch this if you haven't already whilst it is still on the iPlayer. I may get myself the DVD. Would definitely go and see the play now if it was revived.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2017 17:59:33 GMT
I just caught up on this last night and I loved it. ANother one here who hadn't seen the stage play.
I loved the blank verse too, I really liked the classical feel it gave it. I thought Tim Pigott Smith was superb (obviously!) but I thought Oliver Chris was fantastic, especially towards the end. I could easily have watched an extra hour of this, and I really wish I'd seen the stage play.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2018 18:37:47 GMT
Very happy to see this has been nominated for a BAFTA for best single drama and even more happy that Tim Pigott-Smoth has been nominated for actor, if I'm honest I got a bit emotional when I read it.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2018 18:20:09 GMT
I was thinking about this just last week, and how I'd really like to see it again.
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Christopher Stevens writes the comedy of the year.
