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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2018 14:49:16 GMT
Octavius in JC was Jon Tarcy, but in Antony & Cleopatra it was Ben Allen. I can see them looking reasonably similar from further back, but Tarcy does tend to play younger than Allen. Not, mind you, enough to justify James Corrigan turning into Antony Byrne within the same time frame!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2018 14:59:42 GMT
As noted above - I think in terms of historical events, Antony and Cleopatra starts 4 years after the end of Julius Caesar, so no reason not to use the same actors. It seems really odd not to use the same cast for both give they were doing the two in rep. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2018 15:10:03 GMT
Well ta muchly @baemax and @xanderl, much obliged.
I was sat in the first circle so far back enough to think the Octavius' (Octavii?) looked alike. I much preferred the Tony from JC, he was much more attractive. Perhaps they had to age him up a bit so that he matched with Josette Simon who was a bit older? I've just seen that she is 57. She's clearly got a painting in the attic somewhere, she looks amazing. And very brave to give everyone a flash of her asp towards the end too! The play drags on a bit though doesn't it. Although having said that, I did like it when they were playing with their toy boats. That was fun. Lovely curtain too.
And I have to say that I do love it at the Barbecue when the lights go down and all of the doors along the sides close at the same time.
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Post by lynette on Jan 11, 2018 19:07:22 GMT
Yes, the Barbican door closing is the best thing in this theatre. Also it is slightly spooky.
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Post by Jan on Jan 12, 2018 10:55:00 GMT
Yes, the Barbican door closing is the best thing in this theatre. Also it is slightly spooky. What’s happened to the big shiny metal fire curtain though ? Haven’t seen it for years. |
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Post by martin1965 on Jan 12, 2018 12:30:30 GMT
Yes, the Barbican door closing is the best thing in this theatre. Also it is slightly spooky. What’s happened to the big shiny metal fire curtain though ? Haven’t seen it for years. Is it broke? Havent been to the Barbican in yonks but surely its still there? Even when i went there a lot in the 90s i couldnt help but stare at the doors closing in unison😌 |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2018 12:48:50 GMT
I haven't seen the fire curtain during my RSC trips, but I'm sure I've seen it during other shows in 2017.
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Post by TallPaul on Jan 12, 2018 13:27:21 GMT
What’s happened to the big shiny metal fire curtain though ? Haven’t seen it for years. There's a photo of it in the London Theatres book, so must still be operational, if not always used during performances. |
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Post by Someone in a tree on Jan 12, 2018 13:28:39 GMT
I didn’t notice last night for Cleo or for Corlianaus - I suspect it is more interesting than the actual Rome Season
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Post by Jan on Jan 12, 2018 14:22:38 GMT
I haven't seen the fire curtain during my RSC trips, but I'm sure I've seen it during other shows in 2017. So I wonder why the RSC don’t have to use it any more - did fire regulations change ? There used to be two bits of the stage at the front that used to automatically fold up in preparation for the curtain descending. Best use of the thing was when Terry Hands had it close during a climactic scene in Cyrano with Derek Jacobi. |
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Post by Jan on Jan 21, 2018 13:20:02 GMT
Quite a double from Andrew Woodall in this dismal season, a ridiculous camp turn as Caesar followed by a ridiculous mockney turn as Enobarbus. Being the worst actor in both productions takes some doing. Apart from the stupid accents the two performances were very similar, lots of bald actor business clutching his head, slapping his head, touching his head and so on - actors with hair don’t do it.
Sporting of Josette Simon to disrobe, as she did the last time I saw her in After The Fall in 1990. The heir to Helen Mirren.
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Post by martin1965 on Jan 21, 2018 13:28:19 GMT
All very masochistic of you Prof. Do you get comp tix?
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Post by joem on Jan 21, 2018 13:31:13 GMT
It is intriguing that Ralph Fiennes actively wanted to play the role (at NT next year) and was cast before Cleopatra - that is very unusual. Must feel he can bring something to it. More normal was the last NT production where they cast Helen Mirren and then realised they had a problem finding someone to play Antony. Alan Bates was cast and then withdrew at the last minute, Alan Rickman took over and was apparently (i didnt go).poor. Ironically not long after Bates played the role at Stratford opposite Frances de la Tour and was quite good. It is interesting about Fiennes, as you say unusual to find an actor actively going for the role. Rickman/Mirren was terrible which sounds astonishing given the acting talent there. Rickman was flat throughout and Mirren hysterical,never the twain met. Shame. |
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Post by lynette on Jan 21, 2018 14:22:04 GMT
O the misery that was the Rickman- Mirren production. But not ness their fault. Let's hope they all keep their clothes on this time. Sorry Ryan.
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Post by Jan on Jan 21, 2018 15:24:44 GMT
All very masochistic of you Prof. Do you get comp tix? As I said somewhere else I paid £10 for top price stalls seats for each of the four, otherwise I would have avoided JC and A&C. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2018 15:26:37 GMT
It's also a helluva time commitment, which you can work out upfront 'cos it's the RSC, there must be some masochism in there too. £10 may be cheap, but not going is still cheaper!
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Post by martin1965 on Jan 21, 2018 16:21:53 GMT
Well exactly and the prof clearly doesnt like the RSC under Doran so i worry about the prof's pension!
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Post by Jan on Jan 21, 2018 17:28:56 GMT
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Post by Jan on Jan 21, 2018 17:30:57 GMT
Well exactly and the prof clearly doesnt like the RSC under Doran so i worry about the prof's pension! There were actually some good reviews for them too, I think poor old Micky Billington gave JC 4* so I wasn’t totally sure it would be poor. Also as I will be appearing in the Bridge production of JC playing Various Citizens I wanted to see how lesser performers were handling it. |
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