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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2017 9:00:36 GMT
there are left-wing folks in a theatre environment It's as much surprise that anyone can actually AFFORD to be left-wing in the theatre environment. That era of "by the people, for the people" is long gone. Expression, more interesting. For example with "Ink" and "Labour of Love" in adjacent theatres. Go figure. Oh, and back on topic, I finally worked out what the sniffer dogs are doing at kids performances: checking for full nappies. Obvious now I realised. Well that too. It's frankly a surprise any of us can afford to be anything anymore....principles ain't cheap and all. Ah ha. That's what they're up to. And also sniffing out snacks. Say what you will about kids, they have good snacks.
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Post by lynette on Oct 20, 2017 11:31:25 GMT
Yeah, I do get a bit fidgety when I’m with people who moan on about our terrible unfeeling society from the premium stalls.
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Post by TallPaul on Oct 20, 2017 12:28:21 GMT
The common denominator of both The Lion King and Aladdin is Disney. Perhaps there's a concern, real or imagined, that its promotion of archetypal American values makes it a target for those with fanatical anti-Western views.
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Post by theglenbucklaird on Oct 20, 2017 18:13:54 GMT
Yeah, I do get a bit fidgety when I’m with people who moan on about our terrible unfeeling society from the premium stalls. Caring, socialists can't like the theatre? Rich people can't be left leaning? Socialists who can afford stalls seats should sit in the upper circle with d'James?
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Post by Stephen on Oct 22, 2017 22:55:21 GMT
We had sniffer dogs at the Lion King yesterday. Not to mention extra security at entrances!
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Post by lynette on Oct 23, 2017 13:54:05 GMT
Yeah, I do get a bit fidgety when I’m with people who moan on about our terrible unfeeling society from the premium stalls. As opposed to the apoplexy I feel when our politicians boast of "world class state schools and public health services" while taking full advantage of the private systems for both. The way to sort public services is to force, by law, our leaders / leaders-in-waiting to have to use them without any choice. Ah, but tm, at least one of our political parties says that having the choice is what is important. So you can put your money where you want to, education or health care or boats or castles, that is your money not money intended for public service so not Duck houses. So I’m afraid all this nonsense about where politicians send their kids to school only applies to people who insist everyone should attend same schools. But interestingly, back in the day Harold Wilson for one, sent his boys to UCS a fee paying school in Hampstead.
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Post by theglenbucklaird on Oct 23, 2017 18:50:44 GMT
As opposed to the apoplexy I feel when our politicians boast of "world class state schools and public health services" while taking full advantage of the private systems for both. The way to sort public services is to force, by law, our leaders / leaders-in-waiting to have to use them without any choice. Ah, but tm, at least one of our political parties says that having the choice is what is important. So you can put your money where you want to, education or health care or boats or castles, that is your money not money intended for public service so not Duck houses. So I’m afraid all this nonsense about where politicians send their kids to school only applies to people who insist everyone should attend same schools. But interestingly, back in the day Harold Wilson for one, sent his boys to UCS a fee paying school in Hampstead. Don't miss Theatremonkey's point Lynette. We really would get a world class education system if someone as rich as David Cameron had to send Tarquin to the local comprehensive. And let's face it, we all want and aspire to have a world class education system.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2017 19:30:33 GMT
As opposed to the apoplexy I feel when our politicians boast of "world class state schools and public health services" while taking full advantage of the private systems for both. The way to sort public services is to force, by law, our leaders / leaders-in-waiting to have to use them without any choice. You're making the argument that if everyone can't have nice things, then nobody should be able to have nice things. The trouble with that is that nobody at all would get nice things. The country would end up dumber and less healthy. There is no mechanism whereby forcing the rich into state education or healthcare would persuade the population who have to vote for such things that they should raise spending to private sector levels - Manchester Grammar (far from the most expensive reputable private school) charges £12,270 p/a. The government spends £6,300 per secondary state school student. In terms of healthcare, it would require barring seriously ill people from purchasing life-saving treatment in the name of equality. It would be a rather cruel race to the bottom.
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Post by lynette on Oct 24, 2017 17:34:00 GMT
I think David Cameron did choose state schools for his offspring while he was PM. Good on him. His children will have many advantages in life over other children. They can’t help it. So how do we even that out? I think basically we are all on the same page here ( I’m beginning to sound like WIA...) as I think politicians should have experience in the real world and I believe that can be a wide and varied world ( industry, social services, armed forces, health, teaching, the bins and postmen, hairdressers and maybe not actors! ) but the education q is fraught.
Onward.
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Post by Polly1 on Oct 24, 2017 20:35:54 GMT
Yes, exactly, yes.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Dec 22, 2017 13:25:21 GMT
Bumping this in light of the NT Prankster discussion and security etc. When I came out of The Palace in Manchester the other night I left by the side doors but decided to go back into the foyer by the front doors to get meself a magnet. Of course it was full of people leaving but I was able to push through the crowds and enter, there was no security. So despite the bag checks before the show there’s nothing to stop someone accessing the theatre at the end of the performance, in other words exactly what happened at the arena.
Allseems a bit cock-eyed and lip-servicey to me. Is it the same situation elsewhere?
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Post by bellboard27 on Dec 22, 2017 18:26:48 GMT
Bumping this in light of the NT Prankster discussion and security etc. When I came out of The Palace in Manchester the other night I left by the side doors but decided to go back into the foyer by the front doors to get meself a magnet. Of course it was full of people leaving but I was able to push through the crowds and enter, there was no security. So despite the bag checks before the show there’s nothing to stop someone accessing the theatre at the end of the performance, in other words exactly what happened at the arena. Allseems a bit cock-eyed and lip-servicey to me. Is it the same situation elsewhere? It’s counterintuitive but buying a magnet does not make one more attractive.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Dec 22, 2017 19:21:33 GMT
Bumping this in light of the NT Prankster discussion and security etc. When I came out of The Palace in Manchester the other night I left by the side doors but decided to go back into the foyer by the front doors to get meself a magnet. Of course it was full of people leaving but I was able to push through the crowds and enter, there was no security. So despite the bag checks before the show there’s nothing to stop someone accessing the theatre at the end of the performance, in other words exactly what happened at the arena. Allseems a bit cock-eyed and lip-servicey to me. Is it the same situation elsewhere? It’s counterintuitive but buying a magnet does not make one more attractive. You wouldn’t say that if you saw my collection!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2017 22:22:19 GMT
Had the bottom of my rucksack felt by the security guard at the Donmar this evening. I was tempted to look to the side and cough.
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Post by Stephen on Dec 22, 2017 22:25:40 GMT
Working in a West End venue at the moment I can say that security is taken very seriously. From the bag searches at the door, to more random inspections inside. Also, even the smallest issues or security queries within the building are responded to immediately by a dedicated team. It 'feels' safe. I think that's the point nowadays.
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Post by lynette on Dec 23, 2017 0:01:58 GMT
I don’t understand why they don’t use dogs. Dogs can detect explosive stuff and so on. They can tell the dogs to ignore the cannabis 😂 One dog per Theatre. Good for us, nice jobs for dogs.
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Post by daniel on Dec 23, 2017 0:20:30 GMT
I don’t understand why they don’t use dogs. Dogs can detect explosive stuff and so on. They can tell the dogs to ignore the cannabis 😂 One dog per Theatre. Good for us, nice jobs for dogs. there are dogs currently used at the Lyceum and the Victoria Palace. I guess they're deemed the most high risk, therefore justifying the extra expense.
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Post by bellboard27 on Dec 23, 2017 8:43:23 GMT
I don’t understand why they don’t use dogs. Dogs can detect explosive stuff and so on. They can tell the dogs to ignore the cannabis 😂 One dog per Theatre. Good for us, nice jobs for dogs. there are dogs currently used at the Lyceum and the Victoria Palace. I guess they're deemed the most high risk, therefore justifying the extra expense. Once at a station the police had a dog checking everyone who had got off. I was pulled over and asked if they could plant something on me as the dog hadn’t found anything and they wanted to give it some encouragement. I was happy to oblige. Dog was very excited.
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Post by theglenbucklaird on Dec 23, 2017 9:39:35 GMT
I don’t understand why they don’t use dogs. Dogs can detect explosive stuff and so on. They can tell the dogs to ignore the cannabis 😂 One dog per Theatre. Good for us, nice jobs for dogs. A very late entry for post of the year. Very good
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2017 10:08:11 GMT
I don’t understand why they don’t use dogs. Dogs can detect explosive stuff and so on. They can tell the dogs to ignore the cannabis 😂 One dog per Theatre. Good for us, nice jobs for dogs. there are dogs currently used at the Lyceum and the Victoria Palace. I guess they're deemed the most high risk, therefore justifying the extra expense. There are dogs at the Victoria Palace? *Now* I'm excited for Hamilton!
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Post by lynette on Dec 23, 2017 18:04:02 GMT
Woof woof.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 24, 2017 0:06:11 GMT
there are dogs currently used at the Lyceum and the Victoria Palace. I guess they're deemed the most high risk, therefore justifying the extra expense. There are dogs at the Victoria Palace? *Now* I'm excited for Hamilton! Don't let Cynthia Eviro hear about this or she'll assume it is something racist due to Hamilton having a hip-hop score and possibly a larger black audience than other shows. At some concerts depending on the artist profile, I know that Showsec bring sniffer dogs in.
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Post by Phantom of London on Sept 19, 2024 18:22:45 GMT
I had a colleague complain to me at a certain West End show, the security insisted the person empty out their pocket, Is this allowed?
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Post by sph on Sept 19, 2024 20:16:51 GMT
I had a colleague complain to me at a certain West End show, the security insisted the person empty out their pocket, Is this allowed? I suppose if security have reason to believe the person is bringing in something they shouldn't be, they can ask, but it's not something I've come across.
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Post by bee on Sept 19, 2024 21:48:04 GMT
I had a colleague complain to me at a certain West End show, the security insisted the person empty out their pocket, Is this allowed? I suppose if security have reason to believe the person is bringing in something they shouldn't be, they can ask, but it's not something I've come across. I've never had to do this at a theatre, but I would say it's fairly normal now at pop/rock concerts. If I remember rightly, both Wembley Arena and The O2 these days make you walk through an airport-style scanner, and you have to empty your pockets before going through.
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