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Post by welsh_tenor on Apr 15, 2017 22:16:24 GMT
Watch this!!! Amazing 15 year old singing AIATY on BGT - outstanding  I'd have pressed my red button... sounded like her throat was blocked... sorry... not for me! |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2017 22:23:24 GMT
Watch this!!! Amazing 15 year old singing AIATY on BGT - outstanding I'd have pressed my red button... sounded like her throat was blocked... sorry... not for me! C'mon that's abit harsh! She's 15!! For a voice like that at that age and to sing one of the hardest songs going! |
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Post by Paul on Apr 15, 2017 22:28:32 GMT
I think that song was too big for her. Or maybe she just jumped in the deep end and didn't really build the song up, either way - not for me.
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Post by theatremadness on Apr 15, 2017 22:37:37 GMT
Yes, for 15 she obviously has a cracking voice in there somewhere, but for this particular song it really shows that she's been studying Jennifer Holliday and is now trying to imitate her when she sings it herself....aaaaaand that ain't a good thing. Hopefully she may be guided to find her own voice as at the moment it's really guttural and quite affected.
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Post by welsh_tenor on Apr 15, 2017 22:41:57 GMT
I'd have pressed my red button... sounded like her throat was blocked... sorry... not for me! C'mon that's abit harsh! She's 15!! For a voice like that at that age and to sing one of the hardest songs going! 15 or not, if you're going to sing a song like that then expect criticism if you can't sing it! But just my opinion of course, I didn't like her voice. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2017 14:31:07 GMT
I thought she was fantastic!! That voice at just 15 is astonishing. Yes there were some bad habits in there but she's still young. Still, she's sung it on a big stage more times than Ruth has  |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2017 15:03:08 GMT
We should start a twitter hashtag: #poorruth
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Post by ali973 on Apr 16, 2017 15:20:53 GMT
What a dear. I think she was fabulous. And I don't agree that it's Holliday-esque. Her modulations were extremely different. It does have a guttural quality to it, but vastly different than JHol's.
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Post by theatremadness on Apr 16, 2017 15:56:19 GMT
What a dear. I think she was fabulous. And I don't agree that it's Holliday-esque. Her modulations were extremely different. It does have a guttural quality to it, but vastly different than JHol's. Yeah, it was the wrong choice of words from me to say that she was imitating her - personally, and to my ears, you could tell that she'd been listening to JHol, and unintentionally picked up some bad habits from her singing. But a brave girl, and it obviously paid off! |
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Post by daniel on Apr 17, 2017 14:36:38 GMT
Jocasta Almgill is on as Deena tonight until Wednesday, if anyone is interested!
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Post by showoff on Apr 17, 2017 16:27:58 GMT
Hello all. Long time lurker, was a member a while back, but cannot remember username, or password, or email used! So a new user now.
I thought I would add my collected thoughts on the show, seen on Thursday night. I saw it from the dress circle, I always prefer the dress circle anywhere for a few reasons, one being I like the overall view of the show and set pieces. I had to go further back then I usually like to the front row of the second section, as because of personal reasons, I really need an aisle seat and none were available at booking for the front rows/section and as it was a birthday treat, the date had to stand.
I saw a full cast, no understudies, including Amber and Adam fresh off their Olivier wins.
I don't think my thoughts will be what the majority think, but they are mine anyway!
A few problems I had with the show were varied. For me the biggest was Amber. Whilst she has an amazing voice, no doubt about it, but her overall performance, either in the song or acting, just didn't reach me in the dress circle. Her eyeline was mostly kept level, so no playing to the gods, and so to me it seemed as if she was always looking down. Of course her voice reached me and it was stunning, but as a performance, I felt it was lacking.
I don't know if in the stalls I would have had a completely different opinion and I am willing to go again and try the stalls for the first time in many years to see. But even so, it's still an issue for me in her performance. I actually wondered how she managed to win the Olivier if that was her performance level.
Adam on the other hand was amazing, star quality in spades, and boy did he work that stage! A total scene stealer, when he came on the audience just were drawn to him and enthralled. A supporting award usually goes to those who can shine in every scene they are in, and that's what you have here. I just loved his energy in the role.
Another critisim is, to me, it felt like it lacked any real grit or depth. Where were the civil rights issues? They were barely mentioned. It didn't feel like enough had happened to really make Effie down and out to make her comeback more amazing.
The singing between the big numbers made it feel like all of the songs rolled into one and because of this none were standing out on their own. Because of this Listen was an unexpected highlight for me, it stood out as being different and more emotional. My companion and I both agreed and afterwards both said we had tears in our eyes during that one. The actress as Deena sang it beautifully and I didn't believe her to have that great of a voice to begin with, I presume that's a deliberate choice in the role to show her progression as an artist.
Another small thing for me, was the staging of And I am telling you. I didn't enjoy the positioning of the dressing tables throughout it and found myself hoping they were maybe going to revolve them around to the side a bit. I felt it distracted and distanced me from Amber in a way. A small thing maybe, but it was there.
The last thing was the audience, and I am blaming The Savoy for this in part. One thing is they continued to let people in all throughout the first half, at any given time big groups were just brought in. I thought Funny girl was bad enough with that, however they waited between songs for it to happen, Dreamgirls just let people in all throughout. Then there was so many people leaving for the bar or toilet, some people arriving late, not finding their seats and coming back down to ask for help. I was really shocked and it spoiled it. A few people were complaining and one couple did not return after the first half.
The other thing is the screaming during the singing, a couple of girls just in front of us began the night by screaming and throwing their arms everywhere, to which I had to ask them to not as I could not see. But the screaming before Amber even finishes her big notes mean you actually miss them, which is actually a shame, I don't really understand it myself as if you are a fan, do you not want to drink in every note, not miss it with your own screaming?
On the whole I think I would give it three stars, I thought it would be a lot more, I've been waiting for this to come here for years, but there were a few things I didn't love. Maybe on a different night, in different seats it would be better, but from where I sat Amber just did not reach me with her performance sadly.
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Post by fiyero on Apr 17, 2017 16:49:58 GMT
I agree so much about the screaming. It was too early (if needed at all) and drowned out some of the moments. Why do people need to do it?
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Post by d'James on Apr 17, 2017 19:28:20 GMT
Jocasta Almgill is on as Deena tonight until Wednesday, if anyone is interested! I would love to see her in the role. Sadly I can't afford it at the moment. Has she been on as Lorell recently? |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2017 19:30:54 GMT
Jocasta Almgill is on as Deena tonight until Wednesday, if anyone is interested! I would love to see her in the role. Sadly I can't afford it at the moment. Has she been on as Lorell recently? I saw her as Lorrell in December, alongside Liisi and Marisha, she was fabulous!  |
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Post by d'James on Apr 17, 2017 19:32:01 GMT
Yes I saw her a couple of months ago. She was great. Since then they seem to have been mixing up the understudies a bit.
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Post by daniel on Apr 17, 2017 20:00:10 GMT
Jocasta Almgill is on as Deena tonight until Wednesday, if anyone is interested! I would love to see her in the role. Sadly I can't afford it at the moment. Has she been on as Lorell recently? There's some half-decent £20 seats tomorrow and Wednesday thanks to Dynamic Pricing. I'm debating going along...will sleep on it. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2017 3:38:01 GMT
Tonight at Marisha's West End Unplugged show... Marisha, Amber and Lillias White performed together! |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2017 3:40:28 GMT
There is now audio of Marisha singing And I Am Telking You, I Am Changing and Listen live in the show on YouTube, but am not gonna share the link on here in case I get in sh*t! But it is incredible!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2017 8:32:00 GMT
There is now audio of Marisha singing And I Am Telking You, I Am Changing and Listen live in the show on YouTube, but am not gonna share the link on here in case I get in sh*t! But it is incredible! Also a clip of Karen Mav singing I am Changing! |
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Post by ali973 on Apr 18, 2017 8:52:13 GMT
Karen sounds..fine. But nothing special.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2017 22:19:13 GMT
Anyone who has been recently, do the men still sweat disgusting amounts before they have even done anything?  |
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Post by LaLuPone on Apr 18, 2017 22:22:48 GMT
There is now audio of Marisha singing And I Am Telking You, I Am Changing and Listen live in the show on YouTube, but am not gonna share the link on here in case I get in sh*t! But it is incredible! Ok after hearing those I want to see Marisha now!!! Holy hell! Really hope she stays on to become lead next contract |
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Post by wickedgrin on Apr 19, 2017 0:15:27 GMT
Anyone who has been recently, do the men still sweat disgusting amounts before they have even done anything? Yes! The sweat literally flies off them in the spins. The front row must feel like they are watching "Singing in the Rain"! |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2017 0:26:30 GMT
Anyone who has been recently, do the men still sweat disgusting amounts before they have even done anything? Yes! The sweat literally flies off them in the spins. The front row must feel like they are watching "Singing in the Rain"! I sat there when I saw it, luckily none of it hit me, but it was disgusting. Like, I know people will say its the wigs, the suits, the lights and everything, but they are literally sweating the moment they walk out onstage haha. |
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Post by thebearofwestend on Apr 19, 2017 8:32:27 GMT
Will AMber get Tony Nominated for the same role? or was she just licky? |
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