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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2017 18:15:22 GMT
How far in advance does TodayTix allows you to book with a discount like that? (And is that discount code still valid?). I'm eyeing a Saturday matinee in May and wouldn't mind paying if it's that deal in the stalls over having to queue first thing in the morning for day seats. If if isn't, then you're more than welcome to use mine, AHNVM.  Today Tix only tend to have tickets on sale for up to one week, for that upcoming week only. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2017 20:42:03 GMT
Marisha is on again tonight.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2017 21:15:37 GMT
What's the point of West end understudies tweeting that after the show has started?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2017 21:23:47 GMT
What's the point of West end understudies tweeting that after the show has started? I wonder if it is to give people somewhat of an indication of upcoming shows? So, for example, a woman commented on that tweet asking if Amber was doing tomorrow matinee, presumably wondering because she has now missed four consecutive shows. I thijk it is just to keep the general public in the know. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2017 16:10:20 GMT
Marisha is on for both performances today!
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Post by hayley1212 on Mar 5, 2017 9:48:21 GMT
Poor Amber she gets sick a lot.
It must be such a demanding role, to sing those song live, night after night.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2017 10:02:22 GMT
Poor Amber she gets sick a lot. It must be such a demanding role, to sing those song live, night after night. Poor Amber... more like poor Ibinabo! She has had more performances off than on it seems, I am slightly concerned for her!  |
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Post by hayley1212 on Mar 5, 2017 10:43:03 GMT
I have never known a show where, people get sick so much.
Feel for the people that are coming so far to see them.
These shows are not cheap.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2017 11:21:29 GMT
I have never known a show where, people get sick so much. Feel for the people that are coming so far to see them. These shows are not cheap. Well it's hardly their fault they get ill! |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2017 11:27:24 GMT
Well sometimes people don't help themselves when it comes to illness. I'm not saying that's the case here, but where I work i hear 'i can't help being ill' a fair bit and sometimes when you look at their diet, lifestyle etc they are their own worst enemy
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2017 11:36:55 GMT
I think that doesn't really apply when it comes to performers though - a lot of them (Amber included) seem very clued up on vocal health and take a lot of care to ensure their voices are protected as much as they can. Illness is sometimes unavoidable though, and often just pure bad luck!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2017 12:04:59 GMT
it does apply to performers, I've known and seen plenty who smoke, drink, party, drugs etc and all that can affect your health.
Again I'm not saying that is the case here, just that you can't always assume the person can't help it
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2017 12:16:04 GMT
I think the issue lies in how full-out these roles are, and how a lot of these cast members seem to go full-out every performance. Its the same issues that lie with, for example, Elphaba. The actresses who play that role blow their voices out because that is just the way the role is written and they don't wanna disappoint anyone. But this usually leads to some of them losing their voices or making themselves ill. They can't help it, it is almost like these composers and book writers hate women and want to see their voices die haha.
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Post by singularsensation on Mar 5, 2017 12:51:18 GMT
In a show as vocally demanding as this, it's not all that surprising to me that the sickness rate is so high. It's a little disappointing of course, especially if you've booked in the hopes of seeing a specific performer but common sense dictates that you can't guarantee you'll see any performer and at any given time for a whole host of reasons, not just illness.
I do hope that Amber is feeling better soon, preferably in time for Wednesdays matinee, but I've read fabulous things about Marisha so shan't be too disappointed if she isn't!
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Post by ali973 on Mar 5, 2017 13:22:41 GMT
I'm with danieljohnson on this. These are very tough roles and are demanding in every single possible way. I can only imagine how grueling their professional life is. London is also not the easiest city during these months when it's either wet or cold, and the weather is changing constantly. Plus, if it's a cold or flu, once one person is sick, there's no control over how germs start spreading.
Going forward, I really think they ought to have the alternate go on twice a week instead of one so that Amber could have time to recuperate. Ideally on a Monday evening and maybe a Wednesday matinee. This will spare Amber two two day performances, and give her two consecutive days off instead of just one.
There's no doubt that most performers are hard working and dedicated, especially leads who are in high end shows like this. The reason they are not on, is because they cannot go on. In fact, in many productions most of them aren't paid (fully, at least) if they don't perform on a "duty" day.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2017 13:25:31 GMT
Going forward, I really think they ought to have the alternate go on twice a week instead of one so that Amber could have time to recuperate. Ideally on a Monday evening and maybe a Wednesday matinee. This will spare Amber two two day performances, and give her two consecutive days off instead of just one. ... and will give both Karen and Marisha the opportunity to go on more. They could have a performance a week each or two performances a week and alternate week by week. |
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Post by alece10 on Mar 5, 2017 15:26:27 GMT
This has been said before but Imelda Staunton was never sick and Rose is a huge role too.
These young whipper snappers just can't take it these days 😁
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Post by ali973 on Mar 5, 2017 17:41:41 GMT
I'm not undermining Ms. Staunton's effort and ability to have a perfect attendance record (she actually missed about 1 or two performances). Rose is a beast of a role, and requires a lot.
But I think Dreamgirls also requires a certain kind of stamina that is completely different than Gypsy. Gypsy has by far less costume changes, technical elements going on for it, out of this world belting, dancing, hot lights, over-ampified vocals..there's also a lot more singing than talking in Dreamgirls than there is in Gypsy.
Considering its style and age, Gypsy is a lot more laid back as a machine. Dreamgirls is far from that, and has this I'm a mega-musical and I'm on steroids feel.
I think there's a lot more the actors are doing than just walking on stage and performing. To that end, I think casts in a Dreamgirls or a Wicked have to endure a lot more wear and tear. Putting actual performances of a Gypsy vs Wicked aside, the actual workings of a show like Dreamgirls or Wicked could be seriously more grueling than a rather straightforward production as Gypsy.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2017 19:44:28 GMT
Whilst much of that could be true (I don't think Dreamgirls is as big a acting ask as Gypsy) the difference with Rose is it's a role usually played by a woman in her 50s or 60s. That makes it a much bigger task, even the fittest person at that age would have to be a lot more careful than someone in their 20s. Younger actors should have better stamina and immune systems. Also.in imeldas case she wasn't a singer in the truest sense so wouldn't have built up vocal stamina like someone who has been singing regularly for years.
Truth is, as Michael Ball has even pointed out bed, some of the new generation of performers don't have (or won't do what's required for) the stamina for 8 shows a week.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2017 19:46:38 GMT
I would disagree. I think Rose is a bigger and harder role than Effie. Rose is barely off the stage in a longer show. It's known as the hamlet of musical theatre roles for a reason.
Jennifer Holiday didn't have 2 alternates or a standby, and was scheduled to do all performances.
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Post by ali973 on Mar 5, 2017 20:20:31 GMT
There was always a standby. Lillian White was the first standby on Broadway.
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Post by ali973 on Mar 5, 2017 20:20:42 GMT
Lillias*
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Post by madsonmelo on Mar 5, 2017 20:40:23 GMT
Monday is the day off for Miss Riley, right? When she's not sick.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2017 20:59:15 GMT
There was always a standby. Lillian White was the first standby on Broadway. She might have been the first standby but she didn't come into the show till after it opened. There was no standby listed in the original programme. She came in as a replacement. |
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Post by ali973 on Mar 6, 2017 5:50:18 GMT
There was always a standby. Lillian White was the first standby on Broadway. She might have been the first standby but she didn't come into the show till after it opened. There was no standby listed in the original programme. She came in as a replacement. That's always the case in previews, I purposely wanted to see Karen in previews when the show first started so I booked a Monday evening (after seeing the first preview), and it was still Amber. They normally have the standbys take over after the show settles in. Kerry Ellis also only started getting shows way after the show opened. No reason to fuss over this-- I'm sure we can all agree that it's unfathomable for someone to be able to pull this off 8 times a week without a break? |
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