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Post by Snciole on Feb 8, 2016 18:02:36 GMT
Like with the unnecessary long The Master Builder I have invited other people so in it for the long haul out of politeness.
Oh well, least the cast are gorgeous.
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Post by DuchessConstance on Feb 8, 2016 20:09:01 GMT
1st interval.
Giant rotating wooden cube - long stretches while someone does a Rubix Cube or strums a guitar - a contender for forum award Best Animal Actor 2016?
I see what they're going for, and why they need the length to achieve it. Not entirely convinced it's working yet.
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Post by peggs on Feb 8, 2016 20:28:54 GMT
Now me, I quite like a quick interval to stretch legs (and back!) and then settle down again....I hope they have the ticking clock countdown again, I liked that! At the speed people get out of their seats I'm not sure you can get out and back in again if you're stuck on the far side! Limited hydration I think. |
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Post by Latecomer on Feb 8, 2016 20:37:30 GMT
Now me, I quite like a quick interval to stretch legs (and back!) and then settle down again....I hope they have the ticking clock countdown again, I liked that! At the speed people get out of their seats I'm not sure you can get out and back in again if you're stuck on the far side! Limited hydration I think. It's ok Peggs...we are H9 and H10, so door side...a triumph in planning!  |
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Post by peggs on Feb 8, 2016 20:56:02 GMT
At the speed people get out of their seats I'm not sure you can get out and back in again if you're stuck on the far side! Limited hydration I think. It's ok Peggs...we are H9 and H10, so door side...a triumph in planning! Ahh I'd forgotten you'd bought the tickets rather than me, interval sprints then! |
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Post by DuchessConstance on Feb 8, 2016 21:07:11 GMT
2nd interval and starting to fall in love with it. Acting is certainly wonderful, especially from the two younger women.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2016 21:08:25 GMT
If I get there and the beautiful usher is having a day off, then odds are good I won't make it to the end. Should be able to make the last train easily enough, but won't arrange any breakfast meetings the next day. 3 hours 25, HONESTLY.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2016 21:18:17 GMT
If I get there and the beautiful usher is having a day off, then odds are good I won't make it to the end. Should be able to make the last train easily enough, but won't arrange any breakfast meetings the next day. 3 hours 25, HONESTLY. I do think it's very bad form not to start at 7pm if you're going to go on for that long...! |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2016 21:31:47 GMT
Agreed. And it's Robert Icke, after Oresteia they CAN'T have been surprised.
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Post by DuchessConstance on Feb 8, 2016 21:58:25 GMT
Apparently down to 3 hours 20, according to the (non hot but perfectly attractive) ushers.
A few walk outs in the second interval.
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Post by caa on Feb 9, 2016 22:59:11 GMT
This should start at 7pm
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Post by Jan on Feb 10, 2016 8:10:43 GMT
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Post by MrBunbury on Feb 10, 2016 10:19:47 GMT
I saw it last night. I think it is very good and the acting is excellent: Paul Rhys is a great Uncle Vanya (except that he is Uncle Johnny, as names have been anglicized, something I always find questionable) and the set is both simple and effective. I loved the use of light in the second act.
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Post by Jan on Feb 10, 2016 11:41:47 GMT
I saw it last night. I think it is very good and the acting is excellent: Paul Rhys is a great Uncle Vanya (except that he is Uncle Johnny, as names have been anglicized, something I always find questionable) Bizarre. But it's still set in Russia ? Can't think of a single other example where this was done. |
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Post by MrBunbury on Feb 10, 2016 12:01:07 GMT
I saw it last night. I think it is very good and the acting is excellent: Paul Rhys is a great Uncle Vanya (except that he is Uncle Johnny, as names have been anglicized, something I always find questionable) Bizarre. But it's still set in Russia ? Can't think of a single other example where this was done. Any reference to specific places has been eliminated so it could be anywhere and the time when the story happens is the present (the language is updated). Still it is an adaptation that works preserving both the plot and the characters' nature. I just wonder why they have to change the names though: can't British audiences relate to Russian characters? They will do the same with "The suicide" at the National so I am bracing myself... |
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Post by DuchessConstance on Feb 10, 2016 12:04:24 GMT
People next to me certainly seemed under the impression it was set in England. Complaints about, "very well acted, but English people just don't talk like that!"
Oh and will some kind forum member please pop round with some WD40 for the revolve?
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Post by MrBunbury on Feb 10, 2016 12:07:09 GMT
People next to me certainly seemed under the impression it was set in England. Complaints about, "very well acted, but English people just don't talk like that!" Oh and will some kind forum member please pop round with some WD40 for the revolve? I think it was set in England too. Michael and Johnny are hardly names that you find in the continent  ) |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2016 12:45:29 GMT
Michael Haneke and Johnny Foreigner. Both "on the continent".
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Post by Jan on Feb 10, 2016 12:52:25 GMT
People next to me certainly seemed under the impression it was set in England. Complaints about, "very well acted, but English people just don't talk like that!" Oh and will some kind forum member please pop round with some WD40 for the revolve? I think it was set in England too. Michael and Johnny are hardly names that you find in the continent ) I have not seen it yet but a key part of the play is the implication that the estate is very provincial, rural, and distant from Moscow, probably many day's journey away in the 1890s. By setting it in modern-day England you lose that remoteness entirely. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2016 12:54:18 GMT
I am sure they change the names so as to stop the audience from watching the show with the question: "What is this telling me about pre-revolutionary Russia?" Even by leeching out all specificity, some people still think everything they see is set in a specific time and place (these folk apparently assume they are watching a dramatisation of today's England) but nothing will shake them from their delusion and at least the poor dears haven't been confused by multiple references to times and places which always mean that they spend the entire show wracking their brains trying to think of the one time and place which has all the features of what is in front of them.
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Post by MrBunbury on Feb 10, 2016 12:54:22 GMT
Michael Haneke and Johnny Foreigner. Both "on the continent". Yes, I wished the names had been preserved (I am not British, but 'continental'. Johnny Foreigner is a group from Birmingham...) but that is a minor detail as the production is faithful to the original in its own way. I think it will be another success for the Almeida, less radical than the Oresteia but very well-acted and Chekhovian. |
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Post by alexandra on Feb 10, 2016 13:11:35 GMT
I thought it was wonderful. It's not Russian at all, but I agree with you MrB, it's entirely faithful to Chekhov in theme and mood despite the adaptation and modernising. It did take a while (I think it was only just over 3 hours now by the way, for those who care) but by the second act I was hooked. Some beautiful wringing performances, really detailed work, and just utterly stifling, which is a good thing.
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Post by MrBunbury on Feb 10, 2016 13:13:54 GMT
I thought it was wonderful. It's not Russian at all, but I agree with you MrB, it's entirely faithful to Chekhov in theme and mood despite the adaptation and modernising. It did take a while (I think it was only just over 3 hours now by the way, for those who care) but by the second act I was hooked. Some beautiful wringing performances, really detailed work, and just utterly stifling, which is a good thing. This Robert Icke does not miss a single shot at adaptations ) (unlike Uncle Johnny/Vanya) |
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Post by alexandra on Feb 10, 2016 13:26:44 GMT
But Vanya does translate as Johnny, I assume, which sounds a bit patronising, doesn't it? He isn't called Uncle Ivan, which I've never noticed when the Russian names are used.
Sorry, very slow of me MrB, I just got your joke. Anyway for me the anglicised name is a trick that wasn't missed. |
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Post by Jan on Feb 10, 2016 14:16:46 GMT
I am sure they change the names so as to stop the audience from watching the show with the question: "What is this telling me about pre-revolutionary Russia?" Even by leeching out all specificity, some people still think everything they see is set in a specific time and place (these folk apparently assume they are watching a dramatisation of today's England) but nothing will shake them from their delusion and at least the poor dears haven't been confused by multiple references to times and places which always mean that they spend the entire show wracking their brains trying to think of the one time and place which has all the features of what is in front of them. But the play IS set in a specific time and place. You can update it to a different but appropriate time and place - 1920s Alberta or 1960s far North East Scotland - but removing all references to time and place you lose aspects of the play. |
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