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Post by musicalmarge on Dec 18, 2017 7:28:37 GMT
What kind of idiot are you musicalmarge? A personal attack because I did not find it funny. As I said its my opinion. If you were screaming with laughter more power to you. You love smut. But afer a while it gets boring. And this forum shares opinions, not all will be yours, but you must have no class to lash out like that. To castigate me for an opinion. Oh wait, do you know what the word means? Actually I laughed mostly at the non smutty jokes - the 12 days of Christmas routine, Zerdin and his puppet (what’s a sh*tzu? A zoo with no animals in it), the musical theatre in jokes, all of Elaine’s new songs with lyric changes, the references to Half a Sixpense and Hello Dolly, the fact that they forgot their lines, the routine with the adorable children from the audience, Zerdins’s mask routine, the ridiculous large set pieces, the song about the London tube and 225 other non smutty reasons. Do I believe an actually living person sat there at the Palladium and didn’t laugh once? A stoney faced serious stern reaction to the entire show for 2 1/2 hours? No... and I/we/this board/critics/creatives have a right to evaluate and debate that. Boom
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Post by carmella1 on Dec 18, 2017 15:39:35 GMT
Give yourself a pat on the back. You can love or criticise a show all you like, but that is not what you have done. You picked on a person, me. You did not debate what you liked or did not like about a show. I said I did not care for it and was bored, an it was my opinion so boom back at you.
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Post by wickedgrin on Dec 18, 2017 17:55:50 GMT
Ah, I love a bit of festive cheer and goodwill to all men (and women and those who have yet to make up their minds!)
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2017 19:13:36 GMT
Well. It was fun, flashy, filthy and fabulous with a capital FAB-U-LOUS. I was dosed up to the gills on cheap Merlot and Christmas spirit and no matter how cheesy it was, I LOVED it! I didn't even begrudge spending a small fortune on a bag of Munchies, I was in such a good mood. The cast were terrific, Julian and Elaine naturally were the stars ( danieljohnson14 and I gave Elaine entrance applause on every single entrance) and I also loved Gary Wilmott and the man with the puppet. Pans People were very good but they have all gone a bit more butch since I remember them on Top Of The Pops and Nigel Havers was such a good sport. There's a bit where he comes on in a cage which I thought was hysterical. It could have been the Merlot but I think it was because it was funny. Elaine sent herself up marvellously but it was really all about Julian, he was simply smashing. There was some lovely snug trouser work from Charlie Stemp too. I'll bet Emma Williams had a little cry when she saw her wardrobe though, oh my. There's a scene on a ship at the beginning of Act 2 which to be quite frank, was like they'd delved into my mind and made several of my dreams a reality. It was all as camp as . . . well Christmas really.
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Post by Tibidabo on Dec 18, 2017 20:29:13 GMT
Pans People were very good but they have all gone a bit more butch since I remember them on Top Of The Pops Brilliant!
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Post by theatreian on Dec 20, 2017 16:00:19 GMT
Yes saw this yesterday at the matinee and agree that it was fantastic. The most lavish pantomime I have seen with some great effects and set pieces. Cast were great with Julian the star, though ably supported by La Paige and co. A great afternoons entertainment.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2017 17:08:27 GMT
If last years timeline is same as this year then next years panto should be announced tonight by Baz
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2017 17:13:07 GMT
If last years timeline is same as this year then next years panto should be announced tonight by Baz It goes on sale in January, so it will likely be announced tonight or next week. Because I was initally meant to go the day It snowed but couldn't make it, I get a transfer to whatever performance next week, hopefully with an upgrade for the trouble, so I'm thrilled haha.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2017 19:35:08 GMT
^The advert in the programme said "On Sale in Spring 2018." Whether they will stick to that, who knows. Oh I thought there was a screen behind the bar saying January, but either or, sometime at the start of 2018.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2017 19:57:21 GMT
If they do hold off announcing it might be waiting to secure a star. Something like Mother Goose or Snow White will have less of an opportunity to have an ensemble cast of characters played by names and so would need more of a big name to sell it. Snow White for example would need a headliner as the wicked queen. Where as Jack and the beanstalk would be more like dick Whittington
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Post by daniel on Dec 22, 2017 11:30:15 GMT
FWIW, I saw a screen in the Upper bar that said on sale Spring 2018.
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Post by wickedgrin on Dec 22, 2017 11:54:08 GMT
They are not going to announce as early as last year then? Probably due to casting and contracts, although I would be surprised if they break with the winning formula of the last two years, by casting one huge star say to play the Wicked Queen in Snow White.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2017 13:58:11 GMT
Ah was wrong, easy mistake.
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Post by basdfg on Dec 22, 2017 14:04:00 GMT
They also probably didn't get that many sales over the Christmas period anyway.
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Post by daniel on Dec 22, 2017 17:37:33 GMT
The main reason pantos tend to go on sale during the festive season is that local regulars tend to book next year's whilst they're there. Whilst the Palladium will no doubt have its repeat offenders (I am one!) I would imagine the return trade will be a lot less than the regional venues, as it's topped up with tourists and day visitors too, who may decide nearer the time. Thus not as important to get it rushed on sale this early.
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Post by shady23 on Dec 22, 2017 18:54:10 GMT
Yes our local pantos for 2018 went on sale before this year's performances even started. Lots I know book the same day and seats every year, no matter who is in it.
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Post by firefingers on Dec 22, 2017 21:18:41 GMT
Next year's at the venue I'm at has gone on sale too. No casting just which show it is. Main reason is schools like to book early so they can fit when it is best for them, and obviously know rough numbers etc. The families will book later.
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Post by Jon on Dec 22, 2017 21:35:28 GMT
It's interesting that Wimbledon's getting Aladdin next year considering Richmond is doing it this year.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2017 9:57:07 GMT
Saw this yesterday and loved it. The production values are outstanding, all the special effects and all the sets and all the costumes - beautiful costumes and some only appear for 30 seconds! You can see why they charge West End prices. It’s nice to have the offer of paying more for a show like this or paying less and going to one of your regional Qdos pantos.
Julian Clary is brilliant, so sarcastic and so funny. Elaine Paige is brilliant too, her voice is still so amazing! Diversity are great and so good to watch, so clever! Loved Gary Wilmot too, thought he was a great dame. Nigel Havers was much more funnier than last year, it was hilarious his occasional walks onto stage! Paul Zerdin was great too, he did same routines as last year but they are very very funny. I do hope they get a new comedian for encryption yesr thoug just so it’s not the exact same. The thing is that you can’t do the mouth on audience gag without a ventriloquist. Loved Charlie Stemp and Emma Williams too. Emma is great in panto and I hope she continues to do more as she wasn’t in this one that much. Charlie is very good.
I loved the routines. 12 days of Christmas is one of the funniest things I have ever seen. Gary’s tube song is also astonishing. The duet between Elaine and Julian on “we known dick so well” is done really well. There are some brilliant one liners too. Elaine and Julian are great with each other.
Overall you should deffo see the show. As good as last year. Interested to see what they do next year. I hope it’s Snow White. They could get good casting for Queen, dame, Prince, Snow White, henchman, muddled etc. Could be Jack and the beanstalk though. Will deffo be returning next year.
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Post by firefingers on Dec 23, 2017 11:27:58 GMT
I have done Snow White with a good fairy and a live person playing the magic mirror, (as well as Evil Queen, Muddles, Dolly, Henchman, Snow White, the Prince) so bags of scope for names. Warwick Davis for lead dwarf as well maybe? He's doing a Qdos Severn Dwarfs this year.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2017 12:58:03 GMT
I have done Snow White with a good fairy and a live person playing the magic mirror, (as well as Evil Queen, Muddles, Dolly, Henchman, Snow White, the Prince) so bags of scope for names. Warwick Davis for lead dwarf as well maybe? He's doing a Qdos Severn Dwarfs this year. The thing is though that Qdos don’t use real dwarfs in their shows but instead actors on their knees. Funnily enough, I only think that Milton Keynes has Snow White next year so could be the Palladium too? FFE used to use real dwarfs and that’s the company Warwick worked with but now I don’t thjn he’s doing a panto with Qdos this year? I agree there’s lots of chances for big names though, they did it in Birmingham years ago.
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Post by Oleanna on Dec 23, 2017 13:04:46 GMT
Any further thoughts on whether or not EP is singing live in this?
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Post by daniel on Dec 23, 2017 13:08:14 GMT
Any further thoughts on whether or not EP is singing live in this? she 100% is. I say this with such confidence as when I saw it the other week, one of the big notes she went for was so horrendously flat we all winced.
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Post by Oleanna on Dec 23, 2017 13:09:51 GMT
Any further thoughts on whether or not EP is singing live in this? she 100% is. I say this with such confidence as when I saw it the other week, one of the big notes she went for was so horrendously flat we all winced. Brilliant! I’d rather that than a perfect click!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2017 18:23:16 GMT
Id forgotten the mirror as an option too Qdos used to use real dwarfs but in recent years dwarves have become so expensive that producers (not just qdos) have moved away to using actors on their knees (ala shrek), children in some cases with awful masks
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