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Post by emilyrose on Jul 3, 2016 16:58:51 GMT
In my opinion, the performer that by the end of the run has done the most performances should be the one that is eligible. Then I believe that will be Natasha as she has already performed sixty, I think I just read. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2016 18:40:49 GMT
I've seen both Sheridan and Natasha play Fanny and it's difficult to say who the best is. It fits the "understudy gets thrown on with no notice and blows away critics and theatregoers alike" narrative for Natasha to be much stronger than Sheridan but in reality I don't think there's a lot between them. Sheridan is funny, and has the presence. Natasha has the pipes and gives a much more... warm portrayal.
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Post by mrbarnaby on Jul 3, 2016 18:47:40 GMT
I believe Martine McCutcheons understudies performed more than she did.. And she went on to win the Olivier!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2016 5:28:41 GMT
The production has really shot Natasha in the foot with this one. As she is still listed as Understudy to Sheridan, it has really hindered her chance at any nomination. If she was listed as a replacement it would be a different consideration as the role is then hers but the production still consider her Understudy.
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Post by lifewithkirsty on Jul 4, 2016 6:17:00 GMT
The production has really shot Natasha in the foot with this one. As she is still listed as Understudy to Sheridan, it has really hindered her chance at any nomination. If she was listed as a replacement it would be a different consideration as the role is then hers but the production still consider her Understudy. Does it make any difference that she's listed as "cover" on the website? |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2016 7:35:09 GMT
My prior comment, I understand that awards are not anything and Natasha is getting the chance of a lifetime and living her dream 8 times a week so please don't think me ignorant. I am merely talking about the way the producers etc may of handled the Natasha situation. I'm sure Natasha doesn't care.  |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2016 7:38:55 GMT
Someone had to do it.
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Post by wickedgrin on Jul 4, 2016 7:53:25 GMT
I believe Martine McCutcheons understudies performed more than she did.. And she went on to win the Olivier! Yes, Jonathan Pryce's face at the Olivier Awards ceremony was priceless! He acted opposite 3 different Elizas in 1 week apparently! |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2016 7:55:23 GMT
The Olivier Awards are for excellence in performance, not for reliability of attendance.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Jul 4, 2016 8:07:32 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2016 8:14:53 GMT
I believe Martine McCutcheons understudies performed more than she did.. And she went on to win the Olivier! Yes, Jonathan Pryce's face at the Olivier Awards ceremony was priceless! He acted opposite 3 different Elizas in 1 week apparently! That Olivier moment is genuinely my favourite Jonathan Pryce performance. Ever. |
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Post by partytentdown on Jul 4, 2016 8:47:34 GMT
Yes, Jonathan Pryce's face at the Olivier Awards ceremony was priceless! He acted opposite 3 different Elizas in 1 week apparently! That Olivier moment is genuinely my favourite Jonathan Pryce performance. Ever. link link! |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2016 8:59:48 GMT
I believe Martine McCutcheons understudies performed more than she did.. And she went on to win the Olivier! Yes, Jonathan Pryce's face at the Olivier Awards ceremony was priceless! He acted opposite 3 different Elizas in 1 week apparently! It's been fifteen years now. Give the poor woman a break. |
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Jul 4, 2016 9:51:31 GMT
She certainly paid the price didn't she. One movie and a yoghurt commercial since. Martine who?
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Post by Ruby Sue on Jul 4, 2016 10:11:48 GMT
I think if an actor has prior filming commitments it should be listed on the website so people booking are aware & the theatre is covered, I'm surprised they didn't do that with Kevin Spacey when he was absent from The Philadelphia story unless they just didn't bother providing that kind of info then? I know they have with Kunal Nayyar in The Spoils when I assume he's going back to the US to film Big Bang.
Sickness, on the other hand, can't be helped & is unpredictable.
I think I've been really lucky & the only "star" to be absent from a show I've booked was Nathan Lane in The Producers but I think that was towards the end of the run when it all started to fall apart!
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Post by welsh_tenor on Jul 4, 2016 10:31:53 GMT
I believe Martine McCutcheons understudies performed more than she did.. And she went on to win the Olivier! Yes, Jonathan Pryce's face at the Olivier Awards ceremony was priceless! He acted opposite 3 different Elizas in 1 week apparently! Sounds like a regular week at Wicked lately! |
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Post by Pennywise57 on Jul 4, 2016 10:39:30 GMT
That Olivier moment is genuinely my favourite Jonathan Pryce performance. Ever. link link! skip to 8:21 for award. Jonathan Pryce's face at 8:56 onwards. Haha best laugh I've had all week, even martine mccutcheon's face is utterly stunned!! |
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Post by shady23 on Jul 4, 2016 11:01:06 GMT
Yes but the character was never about singing or being the best at it. It was her quirkiness and humour. That is where Sheridan has the edge (and why wouldn't she. This has been her job for years!) In a recording, you don't get the character, in a recording the voice is the most important thing. You don't buy a recording for facial expressions Definately think you need the character to come out in a cast recording. Otherwise you can do what some do and ditch the actors and get in "famous" singers to do it instead. |
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Jul 4, 2016 11:11:12 GMT
skip to 8:21 for award. Jonathan Pryce's face at 8:56 onwards. Haha best laugh I've had all week, even martine mccutcheon's face is utterly stunned!! Ouch!  |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2016 11:17:59 GMT
Jonathan Pryce's face at 8:56 onwards. Haha best laugh I've had all week, even martine mccutcheon's face is utterly stunned!! That was the year Trevor Nunn was up for an Outstanding Achievement award, and by a strange coincidence every show he was involved with seemed to do remarkably well. Funny how that happened. |
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Post by Stasia on Jul 4, 2016 12:54:51 GMT
There was a piano-only bonus track of Memphis Lives in Me for an understudy on the Memphis OLC. Something similar could, and should, be done here, maybe with Don't Rain On My Parade or People. It was the composer, not an understudy. And there was not understudy but alternate in Memphis, btw |
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Post by emilyrose on Jul 4, 2016 14:50:51 GMT
The Olivier Awards are for excellence in performance, not for reliability of attendance. Of course, but I don't think Natasha's performance can be put in that bracket. She is exceptional, by any standard. |
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Post by emilyrose on Jul 4, 2016 14:53:11 GMT
In a recording, you don't get the character, in a recording the voice is the most important thing. You don't buy a recording for facial expressions Definately think you need the character to come out in a cast recording. Otherwise you can do what some do and ditch the actors and get in "famous" singers to do it instead. Oh of course, I corrected myself later. You want the character in the voice, but you also want a voice that is pleasing to the ear. I do believe the recording would be amazing from Natasha as she has a voice which is a joy to listen to and she characterises it throughout, excellently. |
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Post by daniel on Jul 4, 2016 15:48:11 GMT
Just bought myself a day seat for tonight...Claire Rickard is on as Fanny!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2016 16:11:39 GMT
Just bought myself a day seat for tonight...Claire Rickard is on as Fanny! Is this the first show Natasha has missed?! |
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