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Post by trapdoor on Feb 23, 2017 13:01:50 GMT
Just asking, HG , don't get too worked up. It is possible. It sounds like it is v good from what people are saying here and she is a bit of a draw, no? I wonder when the NT last transferred a Shakespeare to the West End. Did the Richard Eyre/Ian McKellen Richard III make it? None of the great NT Shakespeares I can think of did: Hytner/Lester Othello, Eyre/Holm Lear, Nunn/Goodman Merchant, though that transferred from the Cottesloe to the Olivier, I think.
Come to think of it, when was the last time the NT transferred a play to the West End that wasn't a new play? It rarely happens, if at all. The odd musical, I suppose: Carousel, My Fair Lady.
War Horse and Curious Incident....? |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2017 13:32:44 GMT
War Horse and Curious Incident....? No, Shakespeare died before he got round to writing those two. They were both new plays. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2017 14:20:03 GMT
Well, War Horse had been, gone, and come back to the NT before making it to the West End so could have counted as a revival before transferring. Same with This House. The History Boys likewise did the rounds a fair bit before I finally saw it in the West End. Otherwise there's always (ALWAYS) An Inspector Calls...
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2017 14:24:16 GMT
so could have counted as a revival before transferring A revival of the original production of a new play. An Inspector Calls first transferred twenty or so years ago. Bordeaux was asking whether the NT has transferred any revived play since then. It sometimes happened up to thirty years ago - off the top of my head, I remember The Crucible and Three Men and a Horse. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2017 14:26:42 GMT
Actually I think you'll find Bordeaux was asking Come to think of it, when was the last time the NT transferred a play to the West End that wasn't a new play?
Come on, it's RIGHT THERE on the thread.  So, anything more recent than An Inspector Calls (and less tenuous than War Horse/This House/History Boys), anyone? EDIT: oh man, HG changed his post while I was replying to it. Still, good to see he recognised the mistake in his phrasing, I suppose, even if my post now looks a bit weird because of it. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2017 14:32:50 GMT
There may have been some more recent. I can't be bothered to check. When was Baby Doll? (And I can't remember if the NT co-produced Baby Doll with Birmingham Rep or just presented a Birmingham Rep production at the NT, before the West End transfer).
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Post by vdcni on Feb 23, 2017 14:48:06 GMT
They transferred Noises Off in 2000 didn't they.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2017 14:56:47 GMT
Didn't the phone hacking one (Great Britain) transfer to the Haymarket? 2014/15?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2017 14:57:42 GMT
Didn't the phone hacking one (Great Britain) transfer to the Haymarket? 2014/15? That was new, Emi! |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2017 14:59:02 GMT
Didn't the phone hacking one (Great Britain) transfer to the Haymarket? 2014/15? That was new, Emi! You know what the pedant brigade made me lose track of what the bloody question was.... |
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Post by vdcni on Feb 23, 2017 14:59:28 GMT
Jumpers - that went to Broadway, I think it went to the West end first
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2017 15:05:52 GMT
Jumpers - that went to Broadway, I think it went to the West end first Yes, 2003. From Lyttelton to Piccadilly. |
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Post by bellboard27 on Feb 23, 2017 15:12:14 GMT
War Horse and Curious Incident....? No, Shakespeare died before he got round to writing those two. They were both new plays. I think you'll find that he did mean to. So personally I treat them as half canon. |
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Post by bordeaux on Feb 23, 2017 17:41:32 GMT
Thanks for replies re transfers. It's interesting to me that so few classic plays get transferred. An Inspector Calls, Jumpers and Noises Off, the latter two by living playwrights, in the past 25 years or so, it appears.
As to numbers, I'm grateful to Daniel Rosenthal's wonderful The National Theatre Story for some facts: 60ish is fairly normal for a classic play with good cast (Hytner's Hamlet was 60, his Timon 61) but occasionally they go above that - the Dominic Cooke Comedy of Errors got 80 performances (Lenny Henry) and the Hytner Othello 100, which is exceptional.
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Post by peggs on Feb 23, 2017 21:14:05 GMT
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Post by bellboard27 on Feb 23, 2017 21:17:16 GMT
Interval time and liking it!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2017 22:03:06 GMT
the Dominic Cooke Comedy of Errors got 80 performances (Lenny Henry) Wasn't that also that year's "Christmas show" as well as the annual Shakespeare? So, it tapped two NT audiences (with some overlap) and earned extra performances? |
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Post by bellboard27 on Feb 23, 2017 23:03:16 GMT
On my storm delayed train home. Excellent production all round. Very much worth seeing. One of the strongest audience reactions I have seen in the Olivier for a while.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2017 10:50:40 GMT
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Post by theatreliker on Feb 24, 2017 17:26:20 GMT
We saw this on press night. A really funny production with a top drawer cast. Stylish but without scrimping on any intelligent bits of interpretation. The use of water in the gulling scenes was really interesting and reminded me of the water in the gulling scenes in the Wanamaker/SRB 'Much Ado' (although I didn't see it, incidentally, Wanamaker was in the audience at TN).
The ending nicely points up the couples at the end of the play but also the darkness in Malvolia's situation. And Greig is a fantastic Malvolia, not just gimmick casting at all.
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Post by David J on Mar 1, 2017 19:29:27 GMT
Currently waiting for the show to start
Stumbled upon David Tennant in the foyer, and apparently Ralph Fiennes is in the building
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2017 22:47:20 GMT
Really enjoyed this and judging by the audience reaction at curtain call, so did everyone else...
Greig fantastic as Malvolia - it's the first time I've ever felt genuinely sorry for the character. Loved Sir Toby too...Tim McMullan in swimming trunks, ooh la la!!
I think this might actually be the Shakespeare play with the unfunniest fool ever (yes, I know, competition is stiff), so a thankless part for Doon Mackichan, but what a lovely voice she has.
Overall: great fun.
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Post by loureviews on Mar 5, 2017 11:59:20 GMT
I thought this was fantastic. Great fun and also managed to hit the emotional buttons too. I loved the LGBT angle with the gay club and the lesbian Malvolia but would have liked this explored more with Orsino and Cesario.
What excellent set design as well, using the revolve and water motifs brilliantly.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2017 10:39:23 GMT
Well. I just loved this. It's about 3 hours but they just zip by. The revolve is on top form (I think I'll throw a couple of pounds towards the fund) and the set is brilliant. Tamsin Greig needs to be made a Dame right now. She's just sensational but it's to the credit of the rest of the cast that they aren't overshadowed by her. Oliver Chris is lovely but aside from Dame Tamsin, the show belongs to Phoebe Fox and Daniel Rigby. I don't think I've laughed at two performances more in a long time. There's a moment with Sir Andrew practicing with his sword in the garden that still makes me giggle.
The scene in the club is rather fun (especially the song) but it's all rather delightful.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2017 17:16:48 GMT
I just returned a pair of £18 tickets in row c of the stalls for the evening of 25th March to the National box office - presume they will appear online shortly!
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So, anything more recent than An Inspector Calls (and less tenuous than War Horse/This House/History Boys), anyone?
