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Post by Phantom of London on Apr 10, 2017 20:34:09 GMT
I am expecting this to come over, along with Waitress.
We know that the Piccalilly will be vacated by January, the Olivers didn't do anything to help Half A Sixpence or The Girls.
Can also see the delightful musical Come From Away making it over.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2017 20:40:16 GMT
Waitress is top of the list for Producers wanting to bri g it over currently, but I imagine Groundhog Day sin't far behind considering it was such a hit here. I don't imagine Come From Away will come here for a little while yet.
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Post by Mark on Apr 10, 2017 20:44:44 GMT
Waitress is top of the list for Producers wanting to bri g it over currently, but I imagine Groundhog Day sin't far behind considering it was such a hit here. I don't imagine Come From Away will come here for a little while yet. I guess that Waitress would wait until the cut-off has passed for the 2018 Oliviers so it won't be up against Hamilton. Same will probably be said for a lot of other new shows wanting to come into town. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2017 20:46:37 GMT
Waitress is top of the list for Producers wanting to bri g it over currently, but I imagine Groundhog Day sin't far behind considering it was such a hit here. I don't imagine Come From Away will come here for a little while yet. I guess that Waitress would wait until the cut-off has passed for the 2018 Oliviers so it won't be up against Hamilton. Same will probably be said for a lot of other new shows wanting to come into town. Indeed, we might see something happen like it did in New York where it was: 2015-2016: Weak season + Hamilton 2016-2017: Amazing season full of new musicals |
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Post by Mark on Apr 10, 2017 20:48:32 GMT
^I think you're a year out, but I do hope so (although tbh Young Frankenstein/Pinocchio should be good!)
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2017 20:50:37 GMT
^I think you're a year out, but I do hope so (although tbh Young Frankenstein/Pinocchio should be good!) Oh I was referring to the Broadway years.  |
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Post by Mark on Apr 10, 2017 20:53:47 GMT
Aaah yes! This year in New York is pretty amazing. Groundhog day has a lot more competition across there and probably wont even get a best musical nomination.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2017 21:04:19 GMT
Aaah yes! This year in New York is pretty amazing. Groundhog day has a lot more competition across there and probably wont even get a best musical nomination. I'd be surprised if it doesn't get nominated along with Natasha/Great Comet, Dear Evan Hansen and Come From Away. If they have a fifth slot then there's a few contenders for that. Word of mouth now seems very good after the early preview egotists had had their say (a group of people we thankfully have little of here). |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2017 21:11:29 GMT
I'd rather see Anastasia get the fourth nomination but I'd be happy for there to be five again and for Groundhog Day to get in too, as I do think it has its merits.
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Post by ali973 on Apr 11, 2017 18:51:15 GMT
I think Anastasia's success might not by so hindered on a Tony. The brand has relative popularity with 30-somethings who remember an love the movie (me!) and will fare very well with girls and parents who take young girls to the theatre. I think Groundhog might fare better with its two leads getting nominations than the actual show, which is not picking up unfortunately. I'm really surprised by how it hasn't soared, considering how the film version is so beloved in the US.
I think Christy could possibly get a nomination, and so will costumes and maybe set. Maybe Mary Beth Peil will also get a supporting nod.
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Post by theatrelover123 on Apr 18, 2017 20:49:24 GMT
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Post by spendleb on Apr 20, 2017 12:52:57 GMT
I've been listening non stop for 2 days, first time I was a bit meh but now I love it, especially the song 'Hope'. |
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Post by danielwhit on Apr 20, 2017 12:56:20 GMT
Yeah, Hope grows on you as a track. Very well staged too.
I'm curious about where this may end up back in London. Minchin revealed that's the intention (and it makes good sense), but where would it go..?
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Post by Jon on Apr 20, 2017 13:00:37 GMT
Yeah, Hope grows on you as a track. Very well staged too. I'm curious about where this may end up back in London. Minchin revealed that's the intention (and it makes good sense), but where would it go..? It would need a 1000-1200 seat theatre so somewhere like the Aldwych, Piccadilly or at a push the Phoenix |
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Post by westendwendy on Apr 20, 2017 20:01:17 GMT
Having seen the mess that is Anastasia last week it is nowhere near the standard and success of Groundhog Day. Glad to see Andy is just doing 4 shows this week and taking it easy.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2017 20:07:52 GMT
Having seen the mess that is Anastasia last week it is nowhere near the standard and success of Groundhog Day. Glad to see Andy is just doing 4 shows this week and taking it easy. Well, it's actually much more of a success than Groundhog Day thus far if we're looking at the grosses. |
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Post by ali973 on Apr 20, 2017 20:14:18 GMT
Thanks, snutte. I personally did not bother addressing this because it's futile..while I make no pretense that Anastasia is the answer to the Broadway musical, and certainly think Groundhog Day is by far a "better show", Anastasia is certainly selling better.
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Post by westendwendy on Apr 20, 2017 21:12:04 GMT
Thanks, snutte. I personally did not bother addressing this because it's futile..while I make no pretense that Anastasia is the answer to the Broadway musical, and certainly think Groundhog Day is by far a "better show", Anastasia is certainly selling better. Anastasia hasn't opened yet. Plus I'm talking creatively and theatrically not about how many dollars it has made so far without having any reviews yet. It's common sense why that would be selling better as millions adored the movie musical and "Journey To The Past" is a belter loved by so many. I rushed to book a flight and ticket for Anastasia and Hello Dolly I wouldn't have for Groundhog Day despite it being a popular film. That said, I think GD is a better show than both of them. I know you dislike me being negative about Anastasia (I really wish I wasn't) - but wait until you see it yourselves guys. There is lots wrong with it when Groundhog Day in comparison is a solid and impressive piece of theatre. |
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Post by ali973 on Apr 20, 2017 21:26:40 GMT
I actually do not disagree with you, and can rate Groundhog Day over Anastasia any day without having seen the latter yet. The thing is, there is no pretense about Anastasia not being this great breakthrough in musical theatre. It's a stage adaptation based on a children's animated movie- with questionable changes, and some run of the mill new songs that pale to the original score. I'm simply talking in terms of success- Anastasia is doing better, and will probably do quite well despite the reviews.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2017 23:38:53 GMT
Full Cast Recording is now on Spotify. I must say, its actually really strange hearing it, as the Old Vic production is suddenly flooding back all of a sudden, like everything! This needs to come back!
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Post by cheesy116 on Apr 20, 2017 23:50:04 GMT
Full Cast Recording is now on Spotify. I must say, its actually really strange hearing it, as the Old Vic production is suddenly flooding back all of a sudden, like everything! This needs to come back! Thanks Daniel I hadn't realised it was on Spotify, I missed the show when it was on at the Old Vic so I'm glad I can hear the songs now. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2017 23:52:02 GMT
Full Cast Recording is now on Spotify. I must say, its actually really strange hearing it, as the Old Vic production is suddenly flooding back all of a sudden, like everything! This needs to come back! Thanks Daniel I hadn't realised it was on Spotify, I missed the show when it was on at the Old Vic so I'm glad I can hear the songs now. No worries, it literally just got put on at midnight, the day of its release so you can listen to it before the physical ones are out hahaha! |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2017 0:14:41 GMT
Just realised from the recording's digital booklet that Sonia Friedman Productions are one of the 20ish secondary producers (not sure if that's the right term as I rarely see that many producers for London or UK productions!) - which is surprising seeing as she and Scott Rudin were meant to be involved with the Old Vic new musicals programme (which I'm guessing Rudin may not be now!) - so I wonder if she would be a main producer for when it comes back? In that case I'm assuming it would be likely to go to an ATG venue.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2017 0:42:32 GMT
Sonia is the queen of shadiness in London at the moment, I wouldn't be at all surprised if she threw some money their way as soon as the reviews came out without any other producer putting money in!
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Post by Jon on Apr 21, 2017 1:11:48 GMT
Just realised from the recording's digital booklet that Sonia Friedman Productions are one of the 20ish secondary producers (not sure if that's the right term as I rarely see that many producers for London or UK productions!) - which is surprising seeing as she and Scott Rudin were meant to be involved with the Old Vic new musicals programme (which I'm guessing Rudin may not be now!) - so I wonder if she would be a main producer for when it comes back? In that case I'm assuming it would be likely to go to an ATG venue. It's a lot more expensive to put on a show on Broadway hence the army of secondary producers, I assume Sonia Friedman and Nederlander are more investors than actual producers since the names above the title are Whistle Pig, Columbia Live Stage and The Dodgers, Whistle Pig and Columbia Live Stage produced the show at the Old Vic and The Dodgers were involved in the Broadway production of Matilda so it's no surprise they're involved with Groundhog Day Not all of Sonia Friedman's shows go to ATG venues, The Ferryman is going to the Gielgud for example but I assume ATG gets preference if one of their venues is available. |
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