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Post by Phantom of London on Oct 31, 2016 21:12:30 GMT
i walked past the London Palladium on the way back from work today and was reminded what a great venue this was, with shows like Joseph, Sister Act, Chiitty Chitty Bang Bang, Sound of Music, The King and I, Oliver and more recently Cats.
So I was despondent that this once great legendary venue has been demoted to do end of the pier Pantomine if you please or one night only pop stars of yesteryear.
What a shame that this famous venue the London Palladium has been ignored, perhaps something like Grey Garden would be fitting, especially the second half.
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Post by joem on Oct 31, 2016 21:29:21 GMT
I am going to a concert there in February. Very large venues like the Palladium and the Coliseum might have to go down that route.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2016 21:38:39 GMT
It's always played host venue to the great London Pantomime, and has been a concert venue for the greatest stars over the years...
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Post by bee on Oct 31, 2016 22:13:34 GMT
Coldplay are playing there in a couple of weeks. That's not bad.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2016 22:36:28 GMT
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Post by annon on Oct 31, 2016 22:37:29 GMT
A new show is going in next year !!!
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Post by westendwendy on Oct 31, 2016 23:23:34 GMT
Wind of the Willows will go in there then Frozen will play there from 2019!!!!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2016 1:15:55 GMT
I still think The SpongeBob Musical should go there.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2016 9:17:31 GMT
I think the thing is producers don't want to risk opening a new musical into the Palladium due to the size. I mean selling out a 2,000 seat theatre 8 times a week is probably quite hard, especially to recoup. I think opening a brand new musical in the West End is risky enough so to put it in the palladium is very risky.
Frozen should go there though as that would sell well in a big theatre due to the film being so loved by families
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Post by Phantom of London on Nov 1, 2016 9:52:23 GMT
I think the thing is producers don't want to risk opening a new musical into the Palladium due to the size. I mean selling out a 2,000 seat theatre 8 times a week is probably quite hard, especially to recoup. I think opening a brand new musical in the West End is risky enough so to put it in the palladium is very risky. Frozen should go there though as that would sell well in a big theatre due to the film being so loved by families I agree with all that, producers can make more money in a small theatre, than a big theatre, smaller theatres sell out so you get demand, when you get demand you can ratchet up your ticket prices and this exactly what Cameron Mackintosh does with his theatres. So with the London Palladium close off the upper circle and sell royal circle and stalls instead, if the show sells out,sell your upper circle as day tickets. simple. Frozen is a long way from a done deal, not sure how this will do in New York if it got poor reviews, albeit the brand is very strong. |
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Post by trapdoor on Nov 1, 2016 10:44:27 GMT
i walked past the London Palladium on the way back from work today and was reminded what a great venue this was, with shows like Joseph, Sister Act, Chiitty Chitty Bang Bang, Sound of Music, The King and I, Oliver and more recently Cats. So I was despondent that this once great legendary venue has been demoted to do end of the pier Pantomine if you please or one night only pop stars of yesteryear. What a shame that this famous venue the London Palladium has been ignored, perhaps something like Grey Garden would be fitting, especially the second half. With that cast its hardly end of the pier panto! |
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Post by profquatermass on Nov 1, 2016 11:10:58 GMT
Surely panto and variety and big name concerts is exactly what the Palladium is known for - not musicals
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Post by mrbarnaby on Nov 1, 2016 22:59:03 GMT
It's also not a popular theatre in the industry. The stage is wide and low.. and no wing space. Most of the audience stares at acres of empty stage. Directors and designers don't like it at all.
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Post by Phantom of London on Nov 2, 2016 14:02:31 GMT
I understand that these 'events' are a money spinner, however these 'events' are few and far between and at least with a regular show you have a regular income coming in 8 times a week.
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Post by welcometodreamland on Nov 4, 2016 12:22:48 GMT
If they are going to get Frozen in 2019, then The London Palladium probably aren't that worried, given how big Frozen is or is going to be.
I should note that I saw I Can't Sing at the LP a couple of years ago and found it a fun, entertaining musical that had the potential to have a long run. Perhaps if it ran in a smaller venue, it would have had that chance.
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Post by Jon on Nov 6, 2016 2:02:53 GMT
If they are going to get Frozen in 2019, then The London Palladium probably aren't that worried, given how big Frozen is or is going to be. I should note that I saw I Can't Sing at the LP a couple of years ago and found it a fun, entertaining musical that had the potential to have a long run. Perhaps if it ran in a smaller venue, it would have had that chance. A lot can change in a few years, I wouldn't be surprised if Disney forgoes the Palladium in favour of Drury Lane if it's available. |
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Post by mrbarnaby on Nov 6, 2016 17:36:35 GMT
Drury Lane will be available- 42nd street ain't gonna run
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2016 7:34:03 GMT
Looks like the Palladium won't have a long running show anytime soon then after all......
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Post by groupbooker on Dec 9, 2016 13:29:19 GMT
I am sure that "Wind in the Willows" will do well there for a limited run. The sets are excellent but can be spread a bit to fill without any loss.
I really wonder if "Frozen" IF it comes over will run and run. Many people are getting rather fed up of the constant pushing by Disney, with parents fed up of "Let it Go". It may run for a couple of years unless they pull a BIG rabbit out of the hat and stun everyone. "Aladdin" I feel is a one shot pony, all my people said they enjoyed it but would not want to go again. Word of mouth here in darkest Cornwall "wouldn't be bothered to go up to see it" - I cant seeing it lasting 10 years like Lion King.
I agree that the panto's coming back to the LP is a great chance to fill up the theatre and for people to come to London for a BIG panto with BIG names. Hopefully with theatre people in them and not a load of TV "stars" as around the country. Looking forward to "Cinders" and also "Willows".
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2016 16:49:38 GMT
Why would people trek from Cornwall to London to see a production that played in their neighboouring county?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2016 16:52:27 GMT
Transport links? Away when the production is in their neighbouring county? Have been to that theatre before and been badly mistreated by staff? Fancy a weekend away in London anyway?
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Post by Mr Snow on Dec 9, 2016 17:10:14 GMT
Two Sundays ago as mentioned on another thread, I collected Christmas Tree that had been used as a prop, from the stage of the LP. This was my first time on a famous stage so maybe they are all like this but I was astounded by how ‘intimate’ it seemed. The lights were up but nothing seemed that far from the stage. But behind the back cloth, you are outside straight away, there’s a ramp and then you’re straight out onto Great Marlborough Street. Being a complete idiot I forgot to take a picture but it was totally thrilling. Flashback 35 years to my birthday, "I'm standing where they once stood" …. www.everafterguide.com/ella-fitzgerald-oscar-peterson-london-palladium-14th-19th-april-1981-framed-and-mounted-print-20x18cm-e618e30474d9691e.html |
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Post by groupbooker on Dec 9, 2016 23:51:46 GMT
Why shouldn't they Trek from Cornwall to see a show on in London? Some people go for names, some go for a weekend away, some go to see what a full blown London show is like, not a cut down touring production. I am taking some to Bristol for Cinderella with Torville & Dean, I have given up with Torquay for shows - awful theatre. I do not book Plymouth either as it is easy reach for most to do themselves and my days of filling that theatre on 1, 2 or 3 nights are over. Some are big fans of Paul O'Grady and asked me to do the LP panto - that's great. Most of you are lucky with the vast amount of theatres in reach for you to see. We have basically 5 - Hall for Cornwall (small but good), TRP Plymouth, Torquay, Bristol or Cardiff within a days trip, most now are receiving houses. The days of the Royals own shows like Sound of Music, Brigadoon, South Pacific, Copacabana etc starting in Plymouth (Plymouth produced shows) and going West End are over now. They now are building a lot of touring/West End productions sets like "Willows", "Miss Saigon" and many more. So the many people who come with me really enjoy going to see the "real thing" before possibly seeing it again in a tour down here.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2016 1:45:38 GMT
So the many people who come with me really enjoy going to see the "real thing" before possibly seeing it again in a tour down here. But The Wind in the Willows was the "real thing" when it premiered at TRP earlier this year. In my opinion. Maybe not by Cornish logic, apparently. |
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Post by groupbooker on Dec 14, 2016 0:02:28 GMT
Yes "Willows" was the real thing but there was know knowledge of where the tour was going or if a London theatre had been picked as yet. I meant the "real thing" is to see the original shows that start in London before coming out on tour, possibly with a cut down cast/set. Many of my people came to see "Willows" at TRP and have also decided to come with me to see it at the LP next year. As I said, I do not organise groups for the TRP any more, I leave that up to themselves to sort out.
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