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Post by foxa on Oct 6, 2016 8:53:04 GMT
Don't think there is a thread for this yet (was hoping there was as I'm always unsure of the spelling!)
Casting: Daniel Radcliffe and Joshua McGuire.
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Post by couldileaveyou on Oct 6, 2016 8:59:37 GMT
Sounds cool! When do the tickets go on sale?
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Post by viserys on Oct 6, 2016 9:25:54 GMT
Nunney!
(LOL, I was about to type "So who's Joshua McGuire?" then remembered the recent conversation about people not knowing Jennifer Hudson and being too lazy to google names they don't know)
Great casting... must bag a ticket.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2016 9:47:46 GMT
God he's an awful actor! Saw him in Cripple and it was embarrassing how good the rest of the cast where over him.
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Post by foxa on Oct 6, 2016 9:49:53 GMT
Sounds cool! When do the tickets go on sale? 2nd November Noon. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2016 9:49:56 GMT
General sale 2nd November (presumably friends booking sooner).
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2016 9:55:44 GMT
Parsley will go to see this and moan that he hates it because he always hates Tom Stoppard.
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Post by mallardo on Oct 6, 2016 10:36:47 GMT
I'm guessing Radcliffe and McGuire are about the same height so perhaps they're going for a real look-alike thing in this production - since people in the play get them confused. Not that that's necessary. I once saw a production where Rosencrantz was white and Guildenstern was black and it worked just fine. The confusion is not over how they look but who has which name.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2016 10:40:48 GMT
I've heard of a production of Hamlet where they cast Rosencrantz and Guildenstern as identical twins. I'm still cross about this lazy gag to this day - they're not indistinguishable, Claudius just doesn't know them enough to know which is which, whether it's because they're not that friendly with Hamlet after all or because Claudius just doesn't care or something else entirely.
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Post by rumbledoll on Oct 6, 2016 10:45:16 GMT
Yay for McGuire, nay for Radcliffe... But I'm in just for the play itself!  |
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Post by couldileaveyou on Oct 6, 2016 10:47:14 GMT
I love the play and I'd like to see Radcliffe on stage... not that I rate him that much as an actor, but I grew up on bread and Harry Potter so I can't miss it!
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Post by Snciole on Oct 6, 2016 10:52:13 GMT
Boyfriend showed some genuine interest in seeing this, as opposed to me shouting "WE ARE GOING TO THIS TONIGHT" at him, so I am pretty gutted these are going to be a hard buy.
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Post by Marwood on Oct 6, 2016 11:02:18 GMT
I thought Radcliffe was OK in The Cripple, I was fearing the worst when I heard he'd been cast in it, English/American actors doing an 'Oirish' accent are usually dreadful but I thought he pulled it off well. I've seen McGuire in a few shows over the years and think he's also a good actor, but I don't know if I'll bother going to see this, maybe because the only version of R&G that I've seen previously was the movie with Gary Oldman and Tom Roth (a long time ago) and they set the bar so high (in my opinion anyway) that I think I'll end up disappointed at most other actors interpretations of the roles.
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Post by bellboard27 on Oct 6, 2016 11:14:34 GMT
Lowest friends level on 25th October. Wonder if Radcliffe will find a way to keep his clothes on throughout, this time. Put that wand away! |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2016 11:28:05 GMT
R&G Are Dead was something I actually liked the sound of when it was first announced for the Old Vic, but now with Daniel Radcliffe announced I fear it will sell out before I get chance to book (because I'm usually someone who leaves it quite late)  |
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Post by rumbledoll on Oct 6, 2016 11:31:28 GMT
I thought Radcliffe was OK in The Cripple, I was fearing the worst when I heard he'd been cast in it, English/American actors doing an 'Oirish' accent are usually dreadful but I thought he pulled it off well. I've seen McGuire in a few shows over the years and think he's also a good actor, but I don't know if I'll bother going to see this, maybe because the only version of R&G that I've seen previously was the movie with Gary Oldman and Tom Roth (a long time ago) and they set the bar so high (in my opinion anyway) that I think I'll end up disappointed at most other actors interpretations of the roles. Being "OK" in the revival of 50th anniversary of a play is a bit underwhelming, isn't it? Agree on the film! Those two were sublime I think they will be just too different to compare... |
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Post by sondheimhats on Oct 6, 2016 11:40:36 GMT
Well I for one am extremely excited for this. I love this play and I love Daniel Radcliffe. I've seen him onstage 3 times (in How to Succeed, Cripple, and Privacy), and I've enjoyed his performance in all 3. I'm very excited to see this. Hopefully I can get tickets...
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Post by Marwood on Oct 6, 2016 12:01:16 GMT
I thought Radcliffe was OK in The Cripple, I was fearing the worst when I heard he'd been cast in it, English/American actors doing an 'Oirish' accent are usually dreadful but I thought he pulled it off well. I've seen McGuire in a few shows over the years and think he's also a good actor, but I don't know if I'll bother going to see this, maybe because the only version of R&G that I've seen previously was the movie with Gary Oldman and Tom Roth (a long time ago) and they set the bar so high (in my opinion anyway) that I think I'll end up disappointed at most other actors interpretations of the roles. Being "OK" in the revival of 50th anniversary of a play is a bit underwhelming, isn't it? Agree on the film! Those two were sublime I think they will be just too different to compare... Maybe I am being a bit harsh with the "OK" - I enjoyed the play (while not as much as some of Martin McDonagh's other work) and thought he acquitted himself without being particularly spectacular in the role. I'm not particularly excited about him being in this, I'm not much of a Harry Potter fan and don't think I've seen any of his other films. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2016 12:04:23 GMT
What I like about Radcliffe is that he's always been aware of his acting limitations, but instead of coasting through the Potters then living off his pile of gold forever, he works hard to extend his range and it does show. He may even be rather good by next year! I don't think it'll be a particular nightmare to get tickets either. Always quietly optimistic about the Old Vic, I am.  |
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Post by theatremadness on Oct 6, 2016 12:11:11 GMT
Maybe a silly question - does one need to have seen Hamlet to particularly enjoy this play? R&G are Dead is a play that I'm really interested in seeing and one that I think I'll enjoy, but whilst I enjoy Shakespeare to a certain extent, I've never seen Hamlet live and if I have watched a film incarnation, it was long ago enough for me to not really remember. Though of course I am more than familiar with the story!
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Post by rumbledoll on Oct 6, 2016 12:14:31 GMT
Being "OK" in the revival of 50th anniversary of a play is a bit underwhelming, isn't it? Agree on the film! Those two were sublime I think they will be just too different to compare... Maybe I am being a bit harsh with the "OK" - I enjoyed the play (while not as much as some of Martin McDonagh's other work) and thought he acquitted himself without being particularly spectacular in the role. I'm not particularly excited about him being in this, I'm not much of a Harry Potter fan and don't think I've seen any of his other films.
I've seen Inishmaan too and though I can't say I hated his performance I wouldn't rate it as something special or memorable either. I also think that Joshua McGuire would make a much better Ros (I can almost hear him deliver "life in a box" monologue just now) rather than Guil. But hey ho, we are not casting directors..
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2016 12:15:35 GMT
I had the same reaction to McGuire's name, then Googled him and of course I saw him in Future Conditional - he was one of the few good things about that particular evening, as I recall!! Never seen R&G so am quite excited about this.
Not sure why we're so down on Radcliffe - as Baemax says, he must be set up for life with what the Potter films brought him, so good on him for choosing interesting projects afterwards. His acting skills have definitely improved since Harry Potter 1! I rather liked him in Woman in Black a few years ago.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2016 12:21:09 GMT
Maybe a silly question - does one need to have seen Hamlet to particularly enjoy this play? You'll understand the play more if you're familiar with Hamlet and with stochastic processes. Some people get very frustrated with Tom Stoppard plays because he rubs his specialist knowledge in your face. Other people just enjoy his plays on their own level of understanding. How you personally respond to his plays is dependant on your personality type! |
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Post by bordeaux on Oct 6, 2016 12:27:26 GMT
Maybe a silly question - does one need to have seen Hamlet to particularly enjoy this play? You'll understand the play more if you're familiar with Hamlet and with stochastic processes. Some people get very frustrated with Tom Stoppard plays because he rubs his specialist knowledge in your face. Other people just enjoy his plays on their own level of understanding. How you personally respond to his plays is dependant on your personality type! Is he rubbing your face in it? He almost always manages to teach you just enough about the subject to enable you to enjoy the play and get the jokes. But, yes, a knowledge of Hamlet is a help, as is a knowledge of The Importance of Being Earnest for Travesties. Though they probably don't come under the category of 'specialist knowledge'. |
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Post by rumbledoll on Oct 6, 2016 12:42:56 GMT
I personaly think that knowing the general "idea" of Hamlet or its plot in a nutshell is sufficient to get R&G's references. The only specific thing to understand is these are supporting charaters to the degree no one really knows who is who. Basically they are thrown into the picture to ask Hamlet about his "tranformation" and be useful for a couple of hours. Then they are thrown out of the text (even though thing are happening to them meanwhile). This is one existential quest among many themes the play explores - Who we are? Where did we come from? What's the point? And how does it all feel.
I love Stoppard for number of reasons, including because he's challenging and educational. If his play I enjoy suggest I better read smth else to understand deeper layers in his own works I will do that in a heartbeat.
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