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Nov 16, 2017 22:10:16 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2017 22:10:16 GMT
My time to chip in.
Never really been a Sondheim fan, but his works are growing on me as I edge through my 30’s.
Great production, visually impressive, set and staging were genius.
The broadcast picture was fine, but unfortunately this production was ruined - for me - by a terrible sound mix.
A lot of really important sung lines completely lost by being far too quiet compared to the orchestra. The mix of the orchestra was great but throughout the whole production the whole vocal mix was too quiet and as a result completely overshadowed by the band.
Such an injustice to the production.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2017 22:22:08 GMT
With all those problems it sounds like we made the right choice, Paddington was excellent! Most cinemas seem to get it right, as evidenced by later comments after it finished. Imagine if you went to a theatre and had this level of failure though, it wouldn’t be acceptable. |
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Post by BoOverall on Nov 16, 2017 22:25:16 GMT
I seriously felt like crying so many times during the live broadcast at the seriously poor sound of the spoken dialogue and the barely audible sound of this sublime cast during the songs at our cinema.
None of the songs carried even close to the impact they should have had throughout the song: most of the voices were just swallowed up by the music.
But for a symphonic production it was stunning: I mean, that amazing score loud and clear...wow, a real treat. I just wish we could hear the words in the songs clearly.
I think it was our cinema (Vue) so we were just unlucky.
But what a joy to see that phenomenal cast and this exceptional production.
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Nov 16, 2017 22:27:34 GMT
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Post by robertb213 on Nov 16, 2017 22:27:34 GMT
No issues with the sync or picture but i agree that the sound wasn't great, I often couldn't make out lyrics when more than one person was singing and the orchestra was definitely drowning them out at times. Really enjoyed it though. And huge ❤❤❤ to Imelda, her Losing My Mind was incredible
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Nov 16, 2017 22:32:54 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2017 22:32:54 GMT
I seriously felt like crying so many times during the live broadcast at the seriously poor sound of the spoken dialogue and the barely audible sound of this sublime cast during the songs at our cinema. None of the songs carried even close to the impact they should have had throughout the song: most of the voices were just swallowed up by the music. But for a symphonic production it was stunning: I mean, that amazing score loud and clear...wow, a real treat. I just wish we could hear the words in the songs clearly. I think it was our cinema (Vue) so we were just unlucky. But what a joy to see that phenomenal cast and this exceptional production. I was at a Vue also, Salford Lowry. Spoke to staff during and after, they said not a cinema issue. It was the feed coming to them which they aren’t allowed to change. |
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Post by Mr Snow on Nov 16, 2017 22:38:43 GMT
Hackney picture house had visual problems all through the first half. I went to "complain" after a total 3 sec blank screen and silence near the end of Mirror Mirror. Ordered a drink to sooth the nerves and on my return the picture was fine but sound lacked any base and was 'glitching'. Gave it two nos and went back to see the same lady who blamed atmospheric conditions and the satellite link and said "every cinema was experiencing the same problem".
Clearly this wasn't the case. I would be interested in hearing more and I will write to them.
Great pity as it was very revealing after previously seeing it live from the balcony.
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Post by Being Alive on Nov 16, 2017 22:44:38 GMT
Sad that the orchestra was on 10000000 decibels (despite it sounding glorious) and caused moments like the climax to I'm Still Here not to be as effective as they are in the theatre. But what a visual treat. So wonderful to see it on the big screen
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Post by couldileaveyou on Nov 16, 2017 22:49:30 GMT
I was at Vue in Piccadilly and Dominic Cook was sitting behind me! It translated quite well, no issue with sync. Neither Imelda mor Janie were in particularly fine voice, but Dee was absolutely sensational and really the winning card of this revival.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2017 22:54:20 GMT
I haven't seen it since previews so the real question is, does Tracie still walk away with the show?  |
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Post by Being Alive on Nov 16, 2017 22:59:13 GMT
I haven't seen it since previews so the real question is, does Tracie still walk away with the show? Yah, I'd say so. Totally magic still. (Although I have a soft spot for Lucy and Jessie as Janie is utterly fabulous in it - and TOTALLY keeps up with la Strallen) |
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Post by karloscar on Nov 16, 2017 23:08:22 GMT
Just back from NTlive broadcast and there was no problem with synching or sound where I was. The orchestra overpowered the singers at the end of Who's That Woman?, but the balance was fine elsewhere. The audience were incredibly well behaved, not a sweet wrapper, toilet break or chatty patty during the overture even. They didn't clap either, but this was Edinburgh so no surprise there.
On the whole I loved the production, choreography and cast. Tracie Bennett stole every scene she was in, but for the first time it became clear to me that Carlotta is the only one who is not deceiving herself, so it fitting that she makes that impression. The scene with Ben on his knees before her is both moving and funny.
One More Kiss was made special by the physical and vocal similarities of young and old Heidi. Harmonies on the last line were stunning.
Janie Dee was pretty faultless, but that costume is so hideous, I don't think someone as classy as Phyllis would have chosen it.
I was doubtful about Imelda being cast as Sally, and most of her songs fell a little flat in the lower keys, but she was vocally far less distracting than Bernadette Peter's Sally. The main problem for me was that if Sally starts off so obviously unhinged, there is nowhere for the character to go. Losing My Mind didn't work as well as the other Follies because her character isn't really any different from earlier, while Ben Buddy and Phyllis are transformed.
Not my favourite Sondheim but well worth a visit.
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Post by dlevi on Nov 16, 2017 23:27:58 GMT
I'm sorry to hear of so many sound and sync problems in the cinemas. I was at the Oliver tonight and it was all fine LIVE in the theatre. A great production of a great musical and I'm thrilled its been preserved and that so many people around the world will get to see it.
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Post by lonlad on Nov 17, 2017 0:15:11 GMT
The sound inside the theatre was fantastic, and I was in the very last row (which incidentally provides the most gorgeous overview of the remarkable design and also how cunningly deployed the space is -- busy when it needs to be and then eerily empty as well). Couldn't believe the growth in pretty well all the performances since September, though poor Geraldine Fitzgerald still seems lost with "Ah, Paris!" (Luckily, she soon vanishes from view.) Imelda infinitely better than 2-1/2 months ago, her brutal self-awareness at the end quite shocking. Janie on fire tonight, and Peter and Philip must as a pair be the best Buddy and Ben there have been since the 1971 original. Can't wait to see it one last time (one more kiss?)
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Post by tysilio2 on Nov 17, 2017 8:06:23 GMT
I loved the show. Never seen it before, thought all the leads were magnificent, wonderful book and score. An absolute treat. At the Odeon Wrexham, we lost sound twice for about a second each time. Synching was fine, balance was OK but some dialogue was overpowered occasionally. The highlight for me was hearing Phillip Quast's sumptuous vocal for the fist time for ages. I hadn't realised he was in it until I heard his unmistakable voice. Delightful.
We also had a famous face in the audience, Terry Hand ex-director of the RSC and more recently Theatre Clwyd.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2017 9:06:47 GMT
Saw the NT live screening last night, thoroughly enjoyed it, obviously not the same atmosphere as seeing it "live" as such. One thing that I noticed, (I saw the show in previews and approx. 3 weeks ago as well) was that in Buddy's Blues, they had replaced the guys as Margie and Sally with women. I actually thought it did work much better than having the men play them.
I was really worried my mother-in-law wasn't enjoying it, but it got to the end of I'm Still Here and she started applauding, literally the only one in the cinema to clap at any point....I was so proud!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2017 9:16:08 GMT
Whenever I see a musical in the cinema I want to applaud haha, it happened when I saw Les Mis in the cinema, most of the audience applauded after I Dreamed a Dream and One Day More, and everyone applauded once it finished!  |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2017 9:20:39 GMT
I think we should probably try and make "clapping in the cinema" a thing that happens, everyone in my cinema last night decided that the end of a song was a perfect time to chat to their neighbour (probably about not having heard any of the lyrics) and honestly if they have to react audibly to a song I'd rather they clapped instead.
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Post by michalnowicki on Nov 17, 2017 9:58:07 GMT
I'm glad I know most of the lyrics to songs in Follies, because I would be quite frustrated if I saw it for the first time through NTLive. Odeon in Edinburgh was full of people, which was a brilliant surprise - I don't think I've ever seen it so full during NTLive.
i must say that I loved the camerawork. The way they managed to capture the follies girls and their younger selves in the "Beautiful girls" was very clever. I've also noticed things I haven't noticed when I saw it in the Olivier (like Weissman standing in the background during "One more kiss").
It's a shame that the sound wasn't perfect, but I'm glad that an initiative like NTLive exists and allows people to see brilliant theatre in their local cinemas. The atmosphere is never the same, but it's always better than nothing.
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Nov 17, 2017 10:44:50 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2017 10:44:50 GMT
Rumours of encore showings with issues fixed
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2017 11:21:35 GMT
Rumours of encore showings with issues fixed Rumours of encore showings at least in Spain are true and hopefully with issued fixed, shone and tuned and whatever. Since I saw this at the NT the day before the official opening, I have so wanted to see it again and was resigned to just living the memory which is still pretty vivid. Lo and behold I look on the NT live site and it says there is an encore performance on February 22nd at a cinema here in Valencia. I am so excited!! Lots of other stuff as well so I think I am going to be one happy chappie in the coming months. Don't think I can get back to the UK until July 2018 at least. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2017 12:27:14 GMT
Rumours of encore showings with issues fixed Rumours of encore showings at least in Spain are true and hopefully with issued fixed, shone and tuned and whatever. Since I saw this at the NT the day before the official opening, I have so wanted to see it again and was resigned to just living the memory which is still pretty vivid. Lo and behold I look on the NT live site and it says there is an encore performance on February 22nd at a cinema here in Valencia. I am so excited!! Lots of other stuff as well so I think I am going to be one happy chappie in the coming months. Don't think I can get back to the UK until July 2018 at least. I'm interested in how the non English language countries show them, are they done with subtitles? If so, are they done live (I expect not in wildly different time zones) or do they wait to add on subtitles? |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2017 12:28:22 GMT
by the way, did everyones screening have subtitles or just ours?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2017 12:35:20 GMT
Saw this in the Odeon Limerick (In The West Of Ireland) last night, really fantastic performances, for me Tracie Bennett and Janie Dee stole the show. No loss of sound or sync issues but at times the orchestra did drown out the vocal. I've seen many live (and pre recorded ) theatre broadcasts but this was the first time that there was applause at numerous times from the cinema audience. I know the NT dont do DVD releases but i really wish they did.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2017 12:35:50 GMT
by the way, did everyones screening have subtitles or just ours? Ours didnt! |
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Post by aksis on Nov 17, 2017 12:45:52 GMT
I'm interested in how the non English language countries show them, are they done with subtitles? If so, are they done live (I expect not in wildly different time zones) or do they wait to add on subtitles? We had English subtitles here in the Netherlands. They do have a slight delay but I do think they are pre done. There were a few small differences in spoken text. Sound in our cinema was good! It was quite full too. I was happy this gave me the chance to see the show too. |
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