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Post by shady23 on Jan 30, 2017 13:48:49 GMT
Having heard Ben Freeman act Fiyero in an American voice I'd be quite happy to never hear an American voice in the show again!
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Post by Michael on Jan 30, 2017 15:21:27 GMT
I've just seen the show three times in the US and hugely prefer British accents. In fact, I fail to understand how anyone who has seen both could not.
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Post by LaLuPone on Jan 30, 2017 16:01:55 GMT
I think it's just better to hear it in your own accent. It feels more accessible to me in the British accents but I can see that Americans would prefer it with the American accent.
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Post by ali973 on Jan 30, 2017 17:20:08 GMT
I've just seen the show three times in the US and hugely prefer British accents. In fact, I fail to understand how anyone who has seen both could not. I find the UK version horribly irksome. It's an American story written by an American team. Glinda works better as a ditzy Beverley Hills blonde. |
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Post by Dan213 on Jan 30, 2017 17:34:44 GMT
I've just seen the show three times in the US and hugely prefer British accents. In fact, I fail to understand how anyone who has seen both could not. I find the UK version horribly irksome. It's an American story written by an American team. Glinda works better as a ditzy Beverley Hills blonde. It's not an American story in any way shape or form. It may have been written by American writers, but the story isn't set in the USA, or any other real place for that matter. |
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Post by ali973 on Jan 30, 2017 17:51:05 GMT
yea..yea..yea..I'm not just singling out Wicked. Lion King sounds dreadful in a British accent too. So glad they at least stuck to American English in Aladdin.
Interestingly, the Australian Wicked is done in American English. I actually would have expected them to do it in Australian..since it's not set in the USA or real place for that matter, right Dan213?
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Post by Dan213 on Jan 30, 2017 18:00:35 GMT
yea..yea..yea..I'm not just singling out Wicked. Lion King sounds dreadful in a British accent too. So glad they at least stuck to American English in Aladdin. Interestingly, the Australian Wicked is done in American English. I actually would have expected them to do it in Australian..since it's not set in the USA or real place for that matter, right Dan213? Must be the same as how the Dutch production is in Dutch, The Mexican production in Spanish, The Brazilian production is in Portuguese etc If you're a non-UK English speaker then perhaps that's why it sounds weird, but to the vast majority of UK audiences, it works perfectly well, if not far better in an English RP accent, as the message is conveyed more clearly |
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Post by Dawnstar on Jan 30, 2017 18:28:32 GMT
I've been unable to listen to the cast recording since I first saw the London production back in 2006. Having heard it in RP (which to me is "normal") I can't bear hearing it sung with American accents. It annoys me when some Elphabas put American vowels into the songs. Kerry Ellis was particularly bad with this, especially after her Broadway stint.
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Post by Jon on Jan 30, 2017 19:33:50 GMT
I think Wicked with British accents works well, the only character that needs to be American is the Wizard.
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Post by daniel on Jan 31, 2017 1:20:54 GMT
Have any of the Asian stops on the tour previously been visited by the American-accented Asian tour? I'd be intrigued to know what people who have seen both in the same city/theatre thought of the difference.
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Post by westendwendy on Jan 31, 2017 8:15:56 GMT
The issue isn't so much with the sound of the accents - the show is less funny in different accents. Period. Look at bootleg copies of the show on Broadway and then to the same with the West End version. It's like it's a different show (and don't blame the audience social difference) I screamed laughing in New York.
As someone pointed out Kerry Ellis couldn't decide if she was singing the songs in American or English, that's because the vowels, style, phrasing and whole make up of the songs were created for American voices.
Like with the OZ productions they just should have stuck to American like Aladdin. I totally understand it is a fictional place, but the show style and humour suffers terribly because of this.
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Post by westendwendy on Jan 31, 2017 8:19:58 GMT
I've just seen the show three times in the US and hugely prefer British accents. In fact, I fail to understand how anyone who has seen both could not. I find the UK version horribly irksome. It's an American story written by an American team. Glinda works better as a ditzy Beverley Hills blonde. That's the whole point - it changes Glindas character from a clueless type cheerleader from LA to an upper class privilaged toff. Changing the accent actually morphs the show into something else. It's soooooo much funnier as a ditzy Beverly Hills girl. Completely agree!!! |
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Post by wicked on Feb 20, 2017 20:49:06 GMT
Any truth in the rumours that the tour is being cut short to finish early in July?
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Post by infofreako on Feb 20, 2017 21:15:21 GMT
Any truth in the rumours that the tour is being cut short to finish early in July? Think that's the current international tour. Doubt it will impact this tour |
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Post by wicked on Feb 20, 2017 21:32:47 GMT
Any truth in the rumours that the tour is being cut short to finish early in July? Think that's the current international tour. Doubt it will impact this tour Oh whoops sorry wrong thread! |
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Post by welsh_tenor on Feb 27, 2017 11:19:32 GMT
Just announced that Bristol has extended so updated list below, tour now opens 31st January.
Confirmed UK venues and dates:
* Bristol Hippodrome 31st January to 3rd March 2018
* Liverpool Empire 7th March 2018 to 31st 2018.
* Birmingham Hippodrome 4th April 2018 to 28th April 2018
* Edinburgh Playhouse 8th May 2018 to 9th June 2018
* Leeds Grand Theatre 13th June 2018 to 7th July 2018
* Dublin Bord Gais Theatre 17th July 2018 to 25th August 2018
* Sunderland Empire 4th September 2018 to 29th September 2018
* Southampton Mayflower 3rd October 2018 to 27th October 2018
* Cardiff Wales Millenium Centre 31st October 2018 to 24th November 2018
* Manchester Palace Theatre 4th December 2018 to 5th January 2019
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Post by welsh_tenor on Apr 13, 2017 7:11:30 GMT
Posting here as the International Wicked thread has gone a bit off topic....
With NDJ, Ashleigh and Jackie coming from Standby roles it would be a safe assumption that they'll bump up either Alice or Jodie to the tour lead - Jodie has been so consistent on tour and been "unofficial alternate" since they went overseas I would be surprised if they did anything other than give her a shot at it! Other than Jodie or Alice my outside punt would be Natalie McQueen - Natalie was on WoS (I think!) 10 people to watch list and has had some great roles since leaving London - she could be Standby at least if she didn't get the lead.
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Post by welsh_tenor on Jul 2, 2017 13:52:44 GMT
With the international tour having played their last performance, hopefully we won't have to wait too long for casting announcements for the next tour!
Whilst the marketing billed this as the new UK & Ireland tour, Zurich is still on sale so it's an assumption that Zurich will be the first stop before it comes back to the Blighty!?
Confirmed venues and dates:
* Theatre 11, Zurich 15th November to 31st December 2017
* Bristol Hippodrome 31st January to 3rd March 2018
* Liverpool Empire 7th March 2018 to 31st 2018.
* Birmingham Hippodrome 4th April 2018 to 28th April 2018
* Edinburgh Playhouse 8th May 2018 to 9th June 2018
* Leeds Grand Theatre 13th June 2018 to 7th July 2018
* Dublin Bord Gais Theatre 17th July 2018 to 25th August 2018
* Sunderland Empire 4th September 2018 to 29th September 2018
* Southampton Mayflower 3rd October 2018 to 27th October 2018
* Cardiff Wales Millenium Centre 31st October 2018 to 24th November 2018
* Manchester Palace Theatre 4th December 2018 to 5th January 2019
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Post by AliceFearnFan2212 on Jul 2, 2017 17:53:06 GMT
With the international tour having played their last performance, hopefully we won't have to wait too long for casting announcements for the next tour! Whilst the marketing billed this as the new UK & Ireland tour, Zurich is still on sale so it's an assumption that Zurich will be the first stop before it comes back to the Blighty!? Confirmed venues and dates: * Theatre 11, Zurich 15th November to 31st December 2017 * Bristol Hippodrome 31st January to 3rd March 2018 * Liverpool Empire 7th March 2018 to 31st 2018. * Birmingham Hippodrome 4th April 2018 to 28th April 2018 * Edinburgh Playhouse 8th May 2018 to 9th June 2018 * Leeds Grand Theatre 13th June 2018 to 7th July 2018 * Dublin Bord Gais Theatre 17th July 2018 to 25th August 2018 * Sunderland Empire 4th September 2018 to 29th September 2018 * Southampton Mayflower 3rd October 2018 to 27th October 2018 * Cardiff Wales Millenium Centre 31st October 2018 to 24th November 2018 * Manchester Palace Theatre 4th December 2018 to 5th January 2019 I think Zurich is the start of a different tour as I've been told by a cast member that the Zurich cast won't be the same as the UK Tour cast |
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Post by Dan213 on Jul 2, 2017 18:33:03 GMT
With the international tour having played their last performance, hopefully we won't have to wait too long for casting announcements for the next tour! Whilst the marketing billed this as the new UK & Ireland tour, Zurich is still on sale so it's an assumption that Zurich will be the first stop before it comes back to the Blighty!? Confirmed venues and dates: * Theatre 11, Zurich 15th November to 31st December 2017 * Bristol Hippodrome 31st January to 3rd March 2018 * Liverpool Empire 7th March 2018 to 31st 2018. * Birmingham Hippodrome 4th April 2018 to 28th April 2018 * Edinburgh Playhouse 8th May 2018 to 9th June 2018 * Leeds Grand Theatre 13th June 2018 to 7th July 2018 * Dublin Bord Gais Theatre 17th July 2018 to 25th August 2018 * Sunderland Empire 4th September 2018 to 29th September 2018 * Southampton Mayflower 3rd October 2018 to 27th October 2018 * Cardiff Wales Millenium Centre 31st October 2018 to 24th November 2018 * Manchester Palace Theatre 4th December 2018 to 5th January 2019 I think Zurich is the start of a different tour as I've been told by a cast member that the Zurich cast won't be the same as the UK Tour cast With the only tour announced being the UK tour, I highly doubt they'll announce another tour at short notice, nor will they have a cast just for Zurich. It's more than likely going to be the UK tour cast |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2017 18:53:29 GMT
I have it on high authority that all Wicked fans will be required to refer to the new tour as the "UK and Ireland Tour" before mumbling under their breath "and Zurich, but the less said about that the better"  |
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Post by daniel on Jul 2, 2017 19:37:58 GMT
Just to echo what's been said above, Zurich definitely isn't part of another tour. Each Wicked production around the world is a wholly individual company. Both UK tours and the International tour are the legal entity "Wicked UK Tour Production Limited" ( beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/08025328 ), London is "Wicked London Production Limited" ( beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/05710744 ), my point being that they can't just reassign dates to a different tour. Equally, I find it highly unlikely there'd be a whole new cast just for Zurich. I could see them having leading cast members that just do those dates, but there's no way they're going to play for six weeks and then recast the entire thing. Also, to the best of my knowledge neither Zurich nor the UK tour has been cast yet, so people in the current cast won't have 100% knowledge. That said, given that some of them will probably carry on with the production, it's perfectly plausible that they've heard things on the grapevine such as casts changing etc etc. anyway, I'm looking forward to seeing the tour in Liverpool, Birmingham and Manchester  |
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Post by welsh_tenor on Jul 2, 2017 19:38:27 GMT
If they were planning another international/European tour starting with Zurich I am surprised that no further dates have been announced yet but would be great if it happened. Got the other half to agree to a short winter break in Zurich (£170 return flight with BA for two!!) so will nip over to see the show, if it's a new tour then that's another cast to see on top of the UK tour in 2018! |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2017 20:24:31 GMT
The audience laughed twice in the show at the Apollo Victoria - with Kristen and Idina, the original cast the audience were screaming laughing. The audience laughed only twice because without exception all the jokes in Wicked are sh*t. There's a little mild humour to be found from the characterisation, but I'd be concerned about someone screaming laughing for any of it. |
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Post by No. on Jul 5, 2017 18:08:23 GMT
Booked to see the tour in Birmingham (it's a birthday present for the mother, she doesn't know yet!). I've never seen the show before but obviously I've listened to it and adore it. We'll be in the back of the stalls as that's all I could afford in time for her birthday. I assume it's strong enough visually to have a good enough view? We missed it the last time it was around so I'm hoping it's a good tour, not too scaled down (if anybody saw the previous tour it would be nice to know how it was?). Granted I've never seen the London production so I won't compare it, probably a good thing!
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