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Post by toomasj on Jan 21, 2024 14:11:56 GMT
James Hume, Rohan Tickell, Richard Woodford, Olivia Brereton, Celia Graham (https://halle.co.uk/event/three-phantoms/)- how I wish I could've seen Olivia and Celia's Christines live! Also if I'm not mistaken, Earl Carpenter produces this Thanks! I saw all of those in the show proper. Rohan played Piangi and was understudy (essentially second cover) as Phantom. James and Richard were ensemble and understudy Phantom (Woodford was in the Connor tour). Celia was a fairly good Christine back in the day, and I saw her several times with John Owen-Jones and Earl Carpenter. |
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Post by Dawnstar on Jan 21, 2024 22:04:22 GMT
James Hume, Rohan Tickell, Richard Woodford, Olivia Brereton, Celia Graham (https://halle.co.uk/event/three-phantoms/)- how I wish I could've seen Olivia and Celia's Christines live! I wish there was some way I could transfer a Phantom show to you because I ended up seeing Olivia Brereton 3 times & I wasn't that keen on her Christine! Celia Graham I only saw in LND, not in the proper Phantom. |
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Post by ceebee on Jan 22, 2024 11:49:47 GMT
Wow - the prices of Phantom tickets these days... Thank heavens for pals who can sort out decent seats at a decent price. I guess the decision to close/revamp is vindicated through the renewed popularity of this show.
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Post by steve10086 on Jan 22, 2024 19:21:02 GMT
Wow - the prices of Phantom tickets these days... Thank heavens for pals who can sort out decent seats at a decent price. I guess the decision to close/revamp is vindicated through the renewed popularity of this show. The popularity, and the high ticket prices, validate the budget cuts? If that’s logic it’s not a version I’m familiar with. |
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Post by ceebee on Jan 22, 2024 19:27:52 GMT
Wow - the prices of Phantom tickets these days... Thank heavens for pals who can sort out decent seats at a decent price. I guess the decision to close/revamp is vindicated through the renewed popularity of this show. The popularity, and the high ticket prices, validate the budget cuts? If that’s logic it’s not a version I’m familiar with. It's just a view - I'm not asking you to endorse it. Was an observation that the gamble to close and refresh it seems to have paid off. That's all. |
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Jan 23, 2024 11:41:05 GMT
2 discounted tix for tomorrow’s (24thJan) matinee on the Noticeboard.
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Post by katherinelesmis on Feb 3, 2024 11:52:59 GMT
Hello. Does anyone know where we're at with the Christine alternate announcement? Paige made her debut almost a year ago, she's already left and we don't know who her replacement is going to be!
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Post by topaz on Feb 3, 2024 11:59:47 GMT
Eve Shanu-Wilson, the current 1st cover, posted on her instagram that she will be playing Christine on Thursdays until mid-March, with Lily seemingly taking all other shows. Nothing else yet about an official new cast member.
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Post by bigredapple on Feb 21, 2024 0:15:29 GMT
Quietly increased their day seats to 37.50 or 42.50. Would you be bothered
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Post by SuttonPeron on Feb 21, 2024 8:42:29 GMT
I mean, having to pay a huge experienced cast and 27 musi-
Never mind!
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Post by StageyBrum on Feb 21, 2024 9:43:35 GMT
Not particularly. I got £30 seats on a Monday evening back in December and they were Royal Circle Row E, currently on TodayTix for £115 each. I’d pay these new prices all day long for seats like this again
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Post by SuttonPeron on Feb 21, 2024 9:50:50 GMT
Meanwhile, the Vienna production opening next month, has standing tickets for £6,85 (8€), available to book in advance for every performance. And dayseats for £13 for students, seniors and other groups. And although it´s the restaged tour, they have a 27-piece orchestra!
The West End is pure greed, isn´t it? They´ve also risen prices for the cheapest seats. And all seats. The seat I paid £79,5 in 2019 is now £135! With half the orchestra and a cast with less prestige (and most likely lower paychecks).
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Post by tom on Feb 21, 2024 10:13:01 GMT
Well people seem to still be paying so why wouldn’t they? The production changed quite a while back now and no matter how much people moan and keep bringing it up, it won’t change anything!
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Post by katherinelesmis on Feb 21, 2024 10:30:51 GMT
I do think the ticket prices going up is a valid concern. "People are still paying these prices" is not a good enough argument, for the simple reason that we don't know if it's the SAME people. Some people will always be able to afford those prices, while for others, they might be saving up forever and then still not be able to afford the new price. I wouldn't go so far as to say it's greed; I'm sure there must be reasons businesswise and I sincerely hope that the cast and crew are paid their dues.
I understand that theatre is expensive to run, and oftentimes there are unprecedented costs that might drive up ticket prices. On the other hand, it is quite understandable on the part of less wealthy theatregoers to complain about this. Yes, tickets are still being sold. But WHOM are they sold to?
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Post by toomasj on Feb 21, 2024 10:40:46 GMT
Well people seem to still be paying so why wouldn’t they? The production changed quite a while back now and no matter how much people moan and keep bringing it up, it won’t change anything! I disagree with this. Speaking up against injustices is important (such as the use of COVID as an excuse to sack long serving cast members/musicians/technical crew and cut costs). Having a long term memory is important in calling out future controversies. We learn from our successes and our failures. Phans, such as myself, have two choices: either accept it and continue to see the show, or don’t accept it and don’t go and see the show. It has no bearing on the new show’s success or failure. I know people personally who were treated appallingly by the production. But I still gave the new show a try, and thought it had its soul ripped out with the small orchestra, new lighting and replaced set pieces/costumes. I haven’t been back and that’s my choice. If people choose to go that’s their choice. There is no positive way to spin it for the consumer; regardless of one’s opinion of the artistic merit of the new show, it is brazen shrinkflation in theatre form. Less than half size orchestra, cheaper effects, underwhelming casts in return for higher prices. Pay more, get less. It was the plan all along - in a show which has made hundreds of millions. So yes, I say people are entitled to continue speaking out in a democratic and constructive way and attempts to silence critics as “negative” or “living in the past” is simply an attempt to shut down debate. People will keep bringing it up whether you permit that or not. |
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Post by tom on Feb 21, 2024 19:34:38 GMT
Well people seem to still be paying so why wouldn’t they? The production changed quite a while back now and no matter how much people moan and keep bringing it up, it won’t change anything! I disagree with this. Speaking up against injustices is important (such as the use of COVID as an excuse to sack long serving cast members/musicians/technical crew and cut costs). Having a long term memory is important in calling out future controversies. We learn from our successes and our failures. Phans, such as myself, have two choices: either accept it and continue to see the show, or don’t accept it and don’t go and see the show. It has no bearing on the new show’s success or failure. I know people personally who were treated appallingly by the production. But I still gave the new show a try, and thought it had its soul ripped out with the small orchestra, new lighting and replaced set pieces/costumes. I haven’t been back and that’s my choice. If people choose to go that’s their choice. There is no positive way to spin it for the consumer; regardless of one’s opinion of the artistic merit of the new show, it is brazen shrinkflation in theatre form. Less than half size orchestra, cheaper effects, underwhelming casts in return for higher prices. Pay more, get less. It was the plan all along - in a show which has made hundreds of millions. So yes, I say people are entitled to continue speaking out in a democratic and constructive way and attempts to silence critics as “negative” or “living in the past” is simply an attempt to shut down debate. People will keep bringing it up whether you permit that or not. Permit it??? Lol! I preferred the older version too by the way and agree with you about the lighting and orchestra size being detrimental to the show but the new version isn’t as bad as I expected.I didn’t try to shut down any debate all I said is that they are running a business and attendance is good and costs generally are rising so why wouldn’t they raise prices and also mentioned that moaning about the changes isn’t going to change anything for Phantom now. Of course people can continue speaking out but for me it becomes boring and tedious when it is every other comment from the same people. |
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Post by ceebee on Feb 21, 2024 20:10:32 GMT
I prefer the new version. I thought the old version was a musty dusty relic.
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Post by erik24601 on Feb 21, 2024 22:30:52 GMT
I've not looked into sales closely enough in this situation to be able to quantify this with any confirmation, but higher face value tickets for those who are still willing to pay it (and believe me, there are those - not least the Americans who are USED to prices this high on Broadway) allows for discounts and offers where possible/where needed.
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Post by bigredapple on Feb 21, 2024 22:59:24 GMT
I've not looked into sales closely enough in this situation to be able to quantify this with any confirmation, but higher face value tickets for those who are still willing to pay it (and believe me, there are those - not least the Americans who are USED to prices this high on Broadway) allows for discounts and offers where possible/where needed. But day seats are supposed to be discounted. An accessible option for those that can’t afford the high prices I think my concern is that it sets a precedent. If every other show followed suit, and raised rush or lottery to around the £50 mark, the west end will become a whole lot more inaccessible to people |
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Post by SuttonPeron on Feb 21, 2024 23:28:05 GMT
I've not looked into sales closely enough in this situation to be able to quantify this with any confirmation, but higher face value tickets for those who are still willing to pay it (and believe me, there are those - not least the Americans who are USED to prices this high on Broadway) allows for discounts and offers where possible/where needed. Phantom wasn´t part of the OLT New Year Sale, isn´t part of London Theatre Week and is never discounted on TKTS or offers any discount through them or third parties aside from the dayseats. Please do tell us "where possible" is regarding discounts and offers. |
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Post by tom on Feb 22, 2024 7:36:21 GMT
Ticket prices for theatre are high and in some cases too high in my opinion but since when was there this requirement for cheap seats to be offered? I always thought it was a nice thing that there were day seats and lotteries but I never felt I or anyone else was entitled to these offers. In my mind it is sort of like me calling out Ferrari because I can’t afford one of their cars. I don’t think it will set a precedent because not all shows will be able to keep the punters coming in with high prices, even Phantom, but since they are businesses and like any other business are there to maximise profit why wouldn’t they set prices at a level where people will still buy them?
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Post by dm913 on Feb 22, 2024 9:55:22 GMT
I've not looked into sales closely enough in this situation to be able to quantify this with any confirmation, but higher face value tickets for those who are still willing to pay it (and believe me, there are those - not least the Americans who are USED to prices this high on Broadway) allows for discounts and offers where possible/where needed. Phantom wasn´t part of the OLT New Year Sale, isn´t part of London Theatre Week and is never discounted on TKTS or offers any discount through them or third parties aside from the dayseats. Please do tell us "where possible" is regarding discounts and offers. Except the show was part of the OLT New Year Sale this year and some tickets are discounted on TKTS. Whether or not the seats offered were good value is up for debate, but you can't deny there are tickets being sold for less than face value on the official LW site. |
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Post by kyvai on Feb 22, 2024 18:07:50 GMT
I’ve got TKTS on-the-day once or twice a year for the last 2-3 years or so, usually £50-60 side front stalls. They’re not always there but often enough IME.
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Post by Alejo on Feb 22, 2024 18:59:39 GMT
For years Phantom didn't offer day seats - even when loads of other shows were doing them. Les Mis still doesn't. And even when Phantom did start, they only used to be for Thursday matinees.
I don't know where the day seats usually are for Phantom, but £42.50 is still a decent price they don't have to offer at all.
They also sell tickets for £37.50, £32.50 and £22.40 on the normal booking site.
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Post by erik24601 on Feb 23, 2024 11:54:28 GMT
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