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Post by horton on Jul 13, 2016 17:36:25 GMT
I don't mind a bit of banter, but what's stopping me visiting as much as I used to are the pornographic pop-ups I sometimes see when accessing this board on my phone. Do you have to use a phone or can you get them just using a normal desktop?
How annoying, loureviews.
I've never had any naughty pop-ups. Don't suppose you have any screen shots???
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2016 0:34:10 GMT
The Funny Girl thread springs to mind but perhaps there are others I'm not aware of. I agree that the tone has changed on here, and I find that some posters are becoming increasingly irritating in either their manner and tone of posting or the extent of it, depends on the situation. But I do think I feel less inclined to read or post these days, which is a shame. Nothing against the mods though, I think this has been the best of all the forums I've ever posted on in terms of the mods striking the balance right. Reread the last ten pages of Funny Girl. Seemed pretty tame to me and, well... quite funny.
Did I not go back far enough?
Read it again, it seems to have gone back to its old ways in the last day or so. It had just become repetitively dull but Sheridan Smith's return seems to have fired up the anger/righteousness level.
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Post by ShoesForRent on Jul 14, 2016 8:28:13 GMT
Did George22 delete his account? I can't seem to link to it
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Post by Hamilton Addict on Jul 14, 2016 8:36:34 GMT
Did George22 delete his account? I can't seem to link to it Yep, it would seem that way.
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Post by Hamilton Addict on Jul 14, 2016 8:38:27 GMT
Not sure I agree with the age conflict stuff. I am a theatre kid myself and I absolutely love talking to those who are experienced in the theatre world on here. I'd say it's more to the individual person and perhaps a clash of personalities?
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Post by ShoesForRent on Jul 14, 2016 8:43:31 GMT
That's a real shame. Part of what makes for an interesting community is different personalities- even if not everyone agrees with them. I can't seem to recall anything offensive that was said.
I hope he remains enthusiastic about theatre.
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Post by londonmzfitz on Jul 14, 2016 9:16:42 GMT
Very disappointing George has gone. My opinion is there was a bullying tone on Funny Girl towards George; I'd pm'd him to applaud his enthusiasm and discuss Sheridan's performance I'd seen at Menier Chocolate Factory.
I love this board, I'm grateful beyond measure to those who made the effort and monitor the board, and I think if I see behaviour towards one individual of that same ilk again I'll be contacting the mods privately to voice my concerns.
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Post by infofreako on Jul 14, 2016 10:48:13 GMT
I tried to defend his youthful exuberance so am also disappointed at his departure
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Post by d'James on Jul 14, 2016 10:54:48 GMT
That really is sad. Does anyone know if he has Twitter or similar so we can try and convince him back.
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Post by Hamilton Addict on Jul 14, 2016 10:55:26 GMT
I don't really think age should come into it, I believe it's down to the individual person's personality. Before people say that I may be being unfair, please note that I am a similar age to George. I feel that people had the right to be annoyed and frustrated with him, but there were some who posters did start to become malicious, which was uncalled for. I feel though that George made the situation worse with the over the top reactions. At the end of the day, it was a shame George felt the need to go and things couldn't be worked out, but I am just happy that most arguments seemed to have stopped. It's so great that fellow theatre lovers have this forum to chat on and as I said in a previous post, being a theatre kid I love to chat to those who are more experienced!
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Post by Nelly on Jul 14, 2016 11:48:30 GMT
When I was a lot younger (14ish years ago) I joined a forum for a long running show, I came in with a lot of youthful exuberance about the show, cast etc.
It rattled some cages (of both older and younger members who felt protective over the show and board) and I got some snarky replies which I didn't understand at first but there were also a lot of people offering suggestions on why people were doing this and ways for me to avoid it. I followed their advice and actually ended up making some good friends because of it some who I'm still very close to.
I felt George was given the same advice and I'd imagine was also getting advice over PM too but chose to mainly ignore it, in my opinion. I also want to echo what others have said about this forum. In general, the tone is way more polite, friendly and engaging than any other forum I've been part of or watched over. I don't think anyone's comments including mine overstepped the mark or were malicious. If you put something out there, people are free to engage with it, challenge it etc. If you can't take push back every so often, then perhaps you're not ready to post in an active online community. Age shouldn't matter.
I also want to add my thanks to the moderation team who I think do an excellent job here.
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Post by kathryn on Jul 14, 2016 12:04:29 GMT
Oh dear. I thought George was pretty harmless. Especially compared to some of the 'characters' we have had in the past.
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Post by stevej678 on Jul 14, 2016 12:18:42 GMT
When I was a lot younger (14ish years ago) I joined a forum for a long running show, I came in with a lot of youthful exuberance about the show, cast etc. It rattled some cages (of both older and younger members who felt protective over the show and board) and I got some snarky replies which I didn't understand at first but there were also a lot of people offering suggestions on why people were doing this and ways for me to avoid it. I followed their advice and actually ended up making some good friends because of it some who I'm still very close to. I felt George was given the same advice and I'd imagine was also getting advice over PM too but chose to mainly ignore it, in my opinion. I also want to echo what others have said about this forum. In general, the tone is way more polite, friendly and engaging than any other forum I've been part of or watched over. I don't think anyone's comments including mine overstepped the mark or were malicious. If you put something out there, people are free to engage with it, challenge it etc. If you can't take push back every so often, then perhaps you're not ready to post in an active online community. Age shouldn't matter. I also want to add my thanks to the moderation team who I think do an excellent job here. I completely agree with this. I haven't seen any evidence of bullying, just George being occasionally challenged about the value of posting the same thing relentlessly or claiming to have information about shows/casting which he was unable to share. This seems perfectly reasonable to me, especially since in almost all cases it was approached in a constructive, supportive way or in good humour. I've thought for a while the Sheridan stuff bordered on attention seeking at times, maybe a desire to be a forum "celebrity" if you like. The more recent posts about meeting producers but not being able to share what was said only affirmed that perception. That's not to say we should welcome his departure - I said in a post only the other day that I don't think anyone wanted him to stop posting but perhaps take a step back and reflect on why people might be frustrated with the situation. However, it's his choice to leave and I respect that. As Nelly says, this is one of the friendliest, most welcoming forums I've come across. I don't think we should let one person's decision to leave cloud that view or influence how we judge other members of this fantastic online community.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2016 13:00:13 GMT
I don't wish to comment too much on personalities, as it's sort of what got us into this mess in the first place, but I will say that I have felt alienated from several other online theatre forums in the past, which saw a similar rush of what we're calling 'youthful exuberance'*, which then took over entirely because more seasoned posters got bored and left.
It was looking horribly like I was going to be faced with the same situation here, which would be sad, because I really value the laughs we have here, as well as the detailed discussion and disagreements.
EDIT: *NB by 'youthful exuberance' I do NOT intend to insult anyone under 30. I think you know what I mean...
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Jul 14, 2016 14:26:00 GMT
Ok everyone, George decided to leave but let's not have a post mortem about it, especially as he's no longer in a position to respond to comments about him.
People come and go all the time. Now let's move on please.
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Post by horton on Jul 14, 2016 14:44:26 GMT
He can always re-register under a new name- maybe a little older and wiser.
Yesterday my password wasn't working so I nearly had to make a new account- it was scary for a moment! This board is generally a great deal of fun!
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Post by kathryn on Jul 14, 2016 15:41:49 GMT
I'll be honest. I think it's really sad that some of you are so pleased he has gone. There is an ignore feature on this forum and you could have used it. It bodes very ill for the health of the forum if the old guard keep scaring off newcomers they don't like. I've seen quite a few forums die that way.
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Post by horton on Jul 14, 2016 15:45:03 GMT
But then, the great atmosphere on the West End board on Broadwayworld was killed off by one persistently annoying and aggressive newcomer.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Jul 14, 2016 15:45:51 GMT
And with that, let's move on. Thread closed.
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