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Post by Rory on Oct 4, 2023 11:52:05 GMT
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Post by pledge on Oct 12, 2023 10:56:32 GMT
Had never seen this play before, and the reviews of earlier productions seem to be unanimous that it blisteringly explores themes of fate, heredity, death, isolation, the self-destructive nature of desire, the lack of female agency and that Marina Carr is Ireland's foremost living playwright on the strength of it...and certainly this extremely intense and full-blooded production goes a long way to making the case for it living up to those ferocious claims...
On the other hand...I have to say a tiny sceptical bit of me did just keep wondering..."Is this a right load of ol' cobblers, packed with every Oirish Misery cliché in the book...?"
Just me then? Interested to hear what others think. Certainly it got a standing ovation, but then what doesn't these days?
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Post by Rory on Oct 12, 2023 21:19:30 GMT
Yes, most of Marina Carr's plays are bonkers, but I absolutely love their intensely theatrical sense of rural gothic tragedy.
The style is often completely over the top but there's a truthfulness to the characters, albeit that many are grotesques, particularly if you are acquainted with rural Ireland. If performed well, when everyone finds the right tone, they are great live experiences.
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Post by jaggy on Oct 16, 2023 12:19:45 GMT
Anyone seen this yet? Really curious to hear what it’s like.
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Post by sherbetlemon on Oct 16, 2023 14:27:12 GMT
Yes, I went with a group of 4 on Friday and all of us found it terrific. For one week into previews felt very tight. Not a single weak link in the cast, maybe my favourite theatre set ever (highly dramatic, and made for varied and efficient scene transitions), and just great, heightened drama. Reactions from others did seem some more mixed on the way out (one lady next to us said “they should pay us to watch that” but I couldn’t disagree more), with the more ethereal second half creating some confusion. The subject matter is heavy but not without a fair share of humour and levity that lighten the experience somewhat. And Alison Oliver is really very impressive (and justifiably exhausted by curtain call). I will be going again!
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Post by nash16 on Oct 17, 2023 18:43:33 GMT
Went last night. Didn’t realise it was a play from 1996. For some reason I thought it was brand new going in. Oh dear. I can only chime with the audience members overheard above. It’s far, far too gloomy, almost relentlessly so. And, more pressing, we don’t care about the title character. She gets no journey, rather a repeat of scenes which all follow the exact same pattern: beginning with how great/troubled Portia is, and then Portia or another family member pressing the self destruct button. Then we have songs which slow everything down every further, as nicely sung as they are. Repeat for a further 15 scenes. And they’ve put an interval in, just to drag out the pain. (In Ireland, Denise Gough’s take ran straight through). There were at least 6 non-returners after the interval. Alison is a great actress, but this is a depressing evening.
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Post by lonlad on Oct 18, 2023 7:44:28 GMT
Totally agree with the post above. I saw this in 1996 and was reminded afresh what a slog it becomes by the end, though I bet Denise Gough found a way to enliven it last year in Dublin. Alison Oliver is so recessive an actress that she seems to disappear in front of you, and her refusal to project doesn't help. The first half is sparky, the second largely superfluous: in every way, and aptly for a play about twins, a play of two halves.
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Post by n1david on Oct 18, 2023 11:23:45 GMT
Seems to be getting decent reviews on the whole, even if they mostly agree that the whole evening is a bit bleak - 4* in Time Out, WOS, The Stage, Guardian... but only 1* in The Times, who clearly loathed every minute of it. I'm not going for a couple of weeks, but at least I'm mentally prepared for the sort of evening I'm likely to have now.
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Post by drmaplewood on Oct 18, 2023 14:17:55 GMT
Well, I'm going tonight so will feed back. At least the weather is getting me in the mood.
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Post by zahidf on Oct 18, 2023 23:11:15 GMT
Bleak but I really liked the staging and acting. I enjoyed the songs a lot, found some of them beautiful
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Post by drmaplewood on Oct 19, 2023 6:38:44 GMT
I was really into this at the interval, but didn't think the plot device of the second half worked as well. 3.5 stars from me.
But the cast are great and I really wish I had seen the Denise Gough one.
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Post by jm25 on Oct 19, 2023 21:59:57 GMT
Definitely too bleak for me. Could and probably should have ended at the interval.
Alison Oliver is great in everything, though, and she was fab in this.
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Post by nash16 on Oct 21, 2023 7:12:46 GMT
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Post by parsley1 on Oct 21, 2023 7:56:17 GMT
This was also the first thing post pandemic that I have left at the interval
I think there are plays which are far bleaker
And the character of the granny brings acerbic humour
Albeit the basest stereotype of evil mother in law parody
In fact many of the characters have wit and the audience laughed at many points
So I don’t buy the bleak argument
I have also seen this play before several times and taken a lot from it
For me the fault lies entirely with the direction and the addition of the excessive songs which protract matters unnecessarily
I think Carrie Cracknell has been heavy handed and it is only due to the calibre of the actors that we get something vaguely watchable
The set also detracted as it didn’t give a proper sense of space and given Portia and her husband lived in relative affluence this was not reflected in the design (which then in turn used the same space for more than one location)
I also think the accents at times were so strong it caused difficulties following the dialogue which didn’t help matters either
The Denise Gough version was much better
It’d also a shame for Alison Oliver as she has now appeared in arguably the two worst shows (relatively speaking as the Almeida had a bumper few years) at this venue within a short space of time
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Post by foxa on Oct 21, 2023 9:38:12 GMT
Can't make today's matinee so just put two tix for free on the noticeboard.
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Post by rumtom on Oct 23, 2023 15:06:04 GMT
I have also just put a free ticket on for Wednesday's matinee. I love a bleak play but I just can't make it now unfortunately. I'll have to read the news instead to get my fix of bleakness until I can make a later date.
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Post by dlevi on Oct 26, 2023 22:04:27 GMT
God what an awful play and production. Unbelievably boring, and dimly lit beyond comprehension. Everyone around me was in some sort of state of slumber. I left at the interval as did many of my fellow audience members. Boring.
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Post by parsley1 on Oct 26, 2023 22:18:58 GMT
God what an awful play and production. Unbelievably boring, and dimly lit beyond comprehension. Everyone around me was in some sort of state of slumber. I left at the interval as did many of my fellow audience members. Boring. Competition between this and Lyonesse I think this is probably worse though
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Post by dlevi on Oct 27, 2023 18:55:21 GMT
God what an awful play and production. Unbelievably boring, and dimly lit beyond comprehension. Everyone around me was in some sort of state of slumber. I left at the interval as did many of my fellow audience members. Boring. Competition between this and Lyonesse I think this is probably worse though I haven't booked Lyonesse - but I'm very tempted ( a day seat or something later in the run when people have had time to return their tickets)
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Post by dr on Oct 27, 2023 19:22:12 GMT
Have to disagree with comments on here. Saw this a few weeks ago, and found it quite spellbinding. Alison Oliver is the perfect choice for Portia - unruly, woeful, comic all the same, and just constantly watchable. I really do love the writing - the non-linear storytelling, the layers of secrets that slowly unfold, the pacing that creeps and lingers enough to create atmosphere, but without plodding. The added music, though pretty and quite haunting melodically, is perhaps a touch over-the-top, especially since the lyricism is very literal at times. The final scene is what won me completely - such a quiet, delicate moment that sticks in your head long after you leave. A good play for Carrie Cracknell, with strong echoes of her "Medea," and, in my opinion, another memorable play at the Almeida.
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Post by jr on Nov 2, 2023 10:48:36 GMT
£10 ticket listed on noticeboard for 7/11
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Post by theatrefan77 on Nov 6, 2023 0:39:43 GMT
I saw this on Saturday and thought it was excellent and really well acted. Top marks to Alison Oliver, she's terrific in a very challenging part.
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