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Post by FrontroverPaul on Jun 16, 2023 10:25:02 GMT
It’s in TodayTix app without all the fees, NGL I am tempted to go for a £46 band. The whole cult flop thing + Kerry Ellis is a draw for sure. Thought process is going like: Diana the musical - ah why not could be fun! In concert - meh, but alright With Kerry Ellis - oh yes definitely then! And Denise Welch - sorry what? Why……why would they do that? Denise Welch released one single - a cover of “You Don’t Have To Say You Love Me’ - in 1995. Found a video of her singing it 4 years ago - scroll to the end when she gets up and has the microphone - see what you think! I don’t know Maiya Quansah-Breed, but quick google tells me she’s another Six alumna so I’m assuming she’s a decent performer and brings in the yoof theatre kid crowd, why is her casting a problem though? Are those comments purely due to her skin colour or am I missing something? Eddie Izzard could be either awful or hilarious if that rumour is true, I simultaneously find him reasonably entertaining (used to be very bloody funny back in the heyday of Dress to Kill) and also an incredibly irritating human. Thanks for the TodayTix tip. Found a single seat there in stalls row C for £95 all in, right at one edge but still better in my opinion than anything on the Eventim website. |
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Post by southstreet on Jun 16, 2023 12:08:45 GMT
I went and checked right when tickets went on sale yesterday and every other row in the stalls and a fair few rows in the dress weren't ever on sale through the main website.
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Post by bobbievanhusen on Jun 16, 2023 23:52:43 GMT
I went and checked right when tickets went on sale yesterday and every other row in the stalls and a fair few rows in the dress weren't ever on sale through the main website. That's odd. They were all on sale when I got mine. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2023 0:37:38 GMT
If the show has a particular "concept" like Six or Hamilton, it works. If it is supposed to be a more (even if somewhat camp) naturalistic portrayal of a recent and very famous public figure I don't feel it really does. You would never cast a white or Asian Desmond Tutu for example. Or a white Tina Turner. Or you had a random black Von Trapp child in the Sound of Music or a white Four Top or Temptation in one of the musicals featuring the Motown legends |
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Post by andypandy on Jun 17, 2023 23:11:19 GMT
I'm all for progressive casting in 2023 but come on - we can't cast BAME actors as Diana! (cue the long screaming debate). I understand we have Six and Hamilton that represent historical characters in different casting but Diana ONLY died in 1997 and her sons are both still alive! We wouldn't dare cast white actors now in BAME roles so this is just a step too far and ridiculous. As someone says above no one would cast a white Tina Turner. The West End and the current UK TV industry and its selective diversity is going MAD. I won't be booking.
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Post by Being Alive on Jun 17, 2023 23:27:36 GMT
Cool don't go if you feel that strongly 🙂
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Post by bobbievanhusen on Jun 17, 2023 23:34:46 GMT
It's a 1 off, concert performance of the show. They'll probably just be standing
behind mic stands all night. She'll be singing the role of Lady Di and gets about 3 songs, if that. And you still cant get past the colour of her skin? 🤔
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Post by FrontroverPaul on Jun 18, 2023 9:48:16 GMT
I went and checked right when tickets went on sale yesterday and every other row in the stalls and a fair few rows in the dress weren't ever on sale through the main website. That's odd. They were all on sale when I got mine. I also saw only alternate rows, and nothing available in the first few in the stalls. I thought Ticketmaster may have been allocated the front rows to sell as premiums but couldn't find them anywhere so decided not to book. Then kyvai posted the tip off about Today Tix and I got row C there, albeit a side view. Maybe they had a sizeable allocation ? |
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Post by Dawnstar on Jun 18, 2023 11:49:55 GMT
Or you had a random black Von Trapp child in the Sound of Music Have you seen the casting for the forthcoming Chichester Sound of Music? The Captain must have had at least 3 former wives! |
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Post by oxfordsimon on Jun 18, 2023 11:57:56 GMT
Or did a lot of adopting
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2023 12:50:12 GMT
Or you had a random black Von Trapp child in the Sound of Music Have you seen the casting for the forthcoming Chichester Sound of Music? The Captain must have had at least 3 former wives! I'd only seen the main names announced and not looked at the juvenile castings but it's one to tick off the list just need a white or asian member of Temptations or Four Tops in Motown musical now. In all seriousness I can give the underage casting more of a pass as a lot of the criteria for casting them is down to their ability and the pool of talent might be smaller. |
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Post by anthony on Jun 18, 2023 13:00:36 GMT
To be honest, I care less about the skin colour of the cast than the fact they've decided to double cast it - it doesn't need to be. THAT is what is silly here. And to the comment before about her children still being alive: I'm not sure I see the point? Out of everything this musical does, the skin colour of the actress playing Diana is probably the thing to be least upset about for them.
I said it when it debuted and I'll repeat now: the score is actually wonderful. If it was attached to any other subject matter, it would do amazingly well. I genuinely love it!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2023 15:26:07 GMT
To be honest, I care less about the skin colour of the cast than the fact they've decided to double cast it - it doesn't need to be. THAT is what is silly here. And to the comment before about her children still being alive: I'm not sure I see the point? Out of everything this musical does, the skin colour of the actress playing Diana is probably the thing to be least upset about for them. I said it when it debuted and I'll repeat now: the score is actually wonderful. If it was attached to any other subject matter, it would do amazingly well. I genuinely love it! Hopefully the composer will find future good subject matters if they can write a quality score. |
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Post by showtoones on Jun 18, 2023 17:10:37 GMT
Clearly they are holding many tickets back and better seats will likely be released closer to the concert, I would think.
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Post by bobbievanhusen on Jun 18, 2023 21:55:43 GMT
Hopefully the composer will find future good subject matters if they can write a quality score. Clearly they can write a quality score, they won the Tony Awards for best score, best book and best new musical for Memphis |
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Post by bobbievanhusen on Jun 18, 2023 22:24:42 GMT
To be honest, I care less about the skin colour of the cast than the fact they've decided to double cast it - it doesn't need to be. THAT is what is silly here. And to the comment before about her children still being alive: I'm not sure I see the point? Out of everything this musical does, the skin colour of the actress playing Diana is probably the thing to be least upset about for them. I said it when it debuted and I'll repeat now: the score is actually wonderful. If it was attached to any other subject matter, it would do amazingly well. I genuinely love it! When the show first began at the La Jolla Playhouse, it was quite different to what went to Broadway/Netflix.
The show opened with Diana looking back at her life, singing a song called 'Once Upon A Time' and there are a few other songs that got cut in later versions. There was a younger version of Diana in that production, and given that they have said that the London concert will be Diana looking back on her life, I assume they are bringing back some of those cuts.
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Post by sph on Jun 19, 2023 1:41:35 GMT
So, to be totally honest, the casting of the kids on The Sound of Music doesn't really bother me. I think sometimes you can suspend disbelief and it doesn't matter so much.
But when you're casting a recent, very famous public figure, I do think that you need to stick a bit closer to reality, yes.
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Post by bobbievanhusen on Jun 19, 2023 2:37:58 GMT
Clearly they are holding many tickets back and better seats will likely be released closer to the concert, I would think. Between the main Eventim website and Today Tix, every seat is on sale in the stalls. |
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Post by asps2017 on Jun 19, 2023 18:48:56 GMT
Any chance this may add extra dates (maybe the Sunday before?)
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2023 18:51:33 GMT
Hopefully the composer will find future good subject matters if they can write a quality score. Clearly they can write a quality score, they won the Tony Awards for best score, best book and best new musical for Memphis I maybe should have worded it better I meant another quality score or they can write a quality score. |
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Post by Joseph Buquet on Jun 19, 2023 20:19:15 GMT
Any chance this may add extra dates (maybe the Sunday before?) Looks like there’s already something on the day before and the day after - so this seems unlikely |
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Post by dlevi on Aug 30, 2023 9:47:41 GMT
Hopefully the composer will find future good subject matters if they can write a quality score. Clearly they can write a quality score, they won the Tony Awards for best score, best book and best new musical for Memphis Well let's face it, Memphis was up against American Idiot, Fela! and Million Dollar Quartet - not a sterling year . It's probably one of the most mediocre shows to ever win the Tony for Best Musical. The authors are decent craftsman but their work is consistently uninspired . |
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Post by anthony on Aug 30, 2023 9:50:13 GMT
I will never understand the hate for Diana. Whilst yes, some of the lyrics are cringy as hell "Harry my ginger haired son". Sure. But as a whole, most of the songs themselves are pretty brilliant!
Genuinely think that if the subject matter was different, people would really like the songs, at least.
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Post by mrbarnaby on Aug 30, 2023 10:23:48 GMT
Clearly they can write a quality score, they won the Tony Awards for best score, best book and best new musical for Memphis Well let's face it, Memphis was up against American Idiot, Fela! and Million Dollar Quartet - not a sterling year . It's probably one of the most mediocre shows to ever win the Tony for Best Musical. The authors are decent craftsman but their work is consistently uninspired . Yes it was a terrible year. Like the year Thoroughly Modern Millie won |
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