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Post by greatauntedna on Apr 4, 2024 22:49:45 GMT
It seems like there have been a lot of changes to dialogue. And Greg James is now one of the voices on the radios at the start! He posted about the Kiln run.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Apr 5, 2024 9:10:08 GMT
Poll added
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Post by ThereWillBeSun on Apr 5, 2024 9:52:38 GMT
It seems like there have been a lot of changes to dialogue. And Greg James is now one of the voices on the radios at the start! He posted about the Kiln run. I love this spoiler ❤️
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Post by alece10 on Apr 6, 2024 9:34:31 GMT
Well no surprise but I absolutely loved this as did my friend. As we were leaving she said "when can we see it again". It is really funny and so well written. A second viewing is definately necessary to hear some of the lines that I missed the first time. Loved the songs as well and it all nips along at speed so I was never bored. Both Dujonna and Sam were excellent and there was a great chemistry between them. Sam, however, was absolutely adorable. For such a young man he is a great actor and he seems to choose his roles carefully. The set is simple but very clever the way suitcases turn into other things and the double revolve works really well. There is a number in the 2nd act which I believe is called "The Argument" which I loved as it isn't really a song as they are arguing with each other but to a beat. (I am sure there is a technical name for it), it was like a rap really but must be really hard to do to get the timing of the words on the beat. It got an instant full standing ovation at the end which really was deserved.
A very mixed audience but it definately attracted the younger audience member, possible Sam Tutty fans.
I bought a programme and fridge magnet before the show and was given a set of Criterion postcards as well which was a lovely gesture and they are really nice. i sat in the stalls on the left hand end seat in row H and the view was excellent as pretty much all of the action takes place centre stage so didn't miss anything.
Really hope it does well in the west end as it certainly deserves to have a good run and its nice to see a happy musical where you come out smiling.
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Post by normasturban on Apr 6, 2024 12:40:50 GMT
Excited to see this again after the Kiln run to see what if any changes have been made.
Sam Tutty’s charm does a lot to help Dougal out because I thought the book made him a little too unsympathetic at a point. I think I might be alone in that one.
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Post by David J on Apr 6, 2024 16:39:34 GMT
I liked this. Heart warming and charming What drags it down for me was the writers go way overboard with Tuttys ‘manic pixie dream boy’. Found him very annoying to begin with. Like I know he’s the character to contrast with Dujonnas cynical, world weary character who helps to break down her barriers and see the light side of things again. But they dial up him 100% with all the trappings of this character (first time to New York, seen every movie, naive etc) and then add in the fact that this is a musical and good lord it’s overbearing. Sometimes I don’t even get his character. At times I wonder he’s on the spectrum before he becomes an expert on dating. And one point I think “does he see New York spiritually as the capital or does he seriously know what the capital of USA is” And normasturban if you’re referring to a moment in the hotel room in the second act, yeah it did seem uncalled for. Like he’s so invested in someone he barely knows But the musical started winning me over from the tinder song and it really shines when Tuttys character is dialled down and it’s just him and Dujonna singing together as their relationship grows. Tonally the way the musical goes from one thing to the next is a little jarring. Like Tuttys characters personality dialling up and down. And the incident with the cake didn’t feel quite as serious as it could be. Instead it’s quickly forgotten about as the pair continue getting to know I’m each other There were some very funny moments, including the aunt comment that got an applause In the end it won me over but I do have reservations about it 3.75 stars
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Post by ThereWillBeSun on Apr 6, 2024 23:53:49 GMT
Excited to see this again after the Kiln run to see what if any changes have been made. Sam Tutty’s charm does a lot to help Dougal out because I thought the book made him a little too unsympathetic at a point. I think I might be alone in that one. I’ve always thought this from day dot - but Alex who originated the role was equally as charming as Sam. I don’t think Douglas is as fleshed out enough and it’s only when he’s at the church, you have that sympathy feeling for him. I think that’s my only critique with the book and if it’s still there (I think… seen it a few times over the years!) the dating song.
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Post by normasturban on Apr 7, 2024 13:39:50 GMT
Interesting (and slightly disappointed) to see they’ve not changed that moment.
I’m not asking for characters to be perfectly behaved and it’s nice in the sense that it’s the moment where Dougal’s happy facade cracks but he’s so unlikable in that scene and I don’t quite warm up to him in the same way again after that.
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Post by osdtdg on Apr 7, 2024 21:51:18 GMT
I've got tickets to this, and having read the overwhelmingly positive reviews here I am now so much more excited.
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Post by properjob on Apr 15, 2024 7:55:34 GMT
I saw this on Sunday. I really liked it. It was funny, the set and staging are clever, the cast are amazing.
I've only given it 4 rather than 5 stars as I couldn't now hum a tune although I did enjoy them.
The audience around me absolutely loved it. Loads of really positive talk overheard on the way out and an instant full standing ovation.
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Post by stevemar on Apr 15, 2024 8:38:41 GMT
Saw it Sunday too. It’s transferred really well and both leads in fine form. Sam Tutty much funnier this time as Dougal with great comic timing, and the rapport between them fantastic.
Upping my 9.5 review (on page 4) at the Kiln to a 10.
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Post by normasturban on Apr 15, 2024 8:42:50 GMT
Saw this on Sunday too. Great response from the crowd. A few tweaks here and there since the last run but for the better. Thought it was great.
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Post by greatauntedna on Apr 15, 2024 9:40:48 GMT
Does anyone know what the seat numbers for the 8 seats in row A are?
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Post by alece10 on Apr 15, 2024 10:00:40 GMT
Does anyone know what the seat numbers for the 8 seats in row A are? Are those the seats with unlimited legroom? They look brilliant.
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Post by greatauntedna on Apr 15, 2024 10:14:34 GMT
Does anyone know what the seat numbers for the 8 seats in row A are? Are those the seats with unlimited legroom? They look brilliant. Yeah. They seem good, I sat in a couple of them. I think being in the middle of either of the four would be better than on any of the ends.
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Post by timbuc on Apr 15, 2024 10:28:21 GMT
Excited to see this again after the Kiln run to see what if any changes have been made. Sam Tutty’s charm does a lot to help Dougal out because I thought the book made him a little too unsympathetic at a point. I think I might be alone in that one. Not alone, I definitely went away from the Kiln thinking the Dougal character could really struggle without someone of Sam Tutty's charm to pull it off.
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Post by robertb213 on Apr 15, 2024 10:52:08 GMT
Sounds like there was a few of us in on Sunday!
This was wonderful, definitely improved since the Northampton run and we'll worth revisiting.
Dougal should be an incredibly irritating character but Sam is just brilliant in this. He's like 80% charm and 20% Andrex puppy. Such a likeable talented guy. Dujonna is also fantastic and their chemistry is a joy. Highly recommended. Seat B5 is also awesome for anyone not wanting to be on the very front row but still masses of legroom with nothing in front of it. Thank you TodayTix Rush!
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Post by normasturban on Apr 15, 2024 10:54:38 GMT
Excited to see this again after the Kiln run to see what if any changes have been made. Sam Tutty’s charm does a lot to help Dougal out because I thought the book made him a little too unsympathetic at a point. I think I might be alone in that one. Not alone, I definitely went away from the Kiln thinking the Dougal character could really struggle without someone of Sam Tutty's charm to pull it off. I’d be interested to see the understudy in the role and see if he’s as capable of winning the audience back. I know the argument is the dramatic peak of the show and they want it to have an impact but he loses me when he swears and tells her not to touch him and never wholly recovers.
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Post by robertb213 on Apr 15, 2024 10:59:34 GMT
Yes I was worried about the hotel scene and how the character would fare, I actually thought it was done well. He's built his dad up on a pedestal into this perfect man and when that all comes tumbling down he lashes out at the person delivering truths he doesn't want to hear (and that she was involved in what happened). Someone that overwhelmingly positive and chipper all the time would very likely have quite an extreme negative side in times of conflict, and I thought they got the balance right, with Sam playing it brilliantly.
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Post by stevemar on Apr 15, 2024 11:27:17 GMT
Yes I was worried about the hotel scene and how the character would fare, I actually thought it was done well. He's built his dad up on a pedestal into this perfect man and when that all comes tumbling down he lashes out at the person delivering truths he doesn't want to hear (and that she was involved in what happened). Someone that overwhelmingly positive and chipper all the time would very likely have quite an extreme negative side in times of conflict, and I thought they got the balance right, with Sam playing it brilliantly. He wiped away a tear when she tells him some home truths. This, combined with the Mum “About to Go In” to the church voicemail song, shows that vulnerable side perfectly.
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Post by greatauntedna on Apr 15, 2024 12:10:30 GMT
I don’t get this idea that it wouldn’t work without Sam Tutty, for the reasons Robert says. It’s quite a natural reaction to have.
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Post by anthony40 on Apr 15, 2024 17:33:03 GMT
There's a story on this tonight on BBC London news
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Post by ThereWillBeSun on Apr 15, 2024 17:58:42 GMT
I saw this last week and thought the changes were brilliant. Is it just me thinking the ending this time around implies romance? Always seemed platonic in other versions. Fab atmosphere / reception. 5 stars.
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Post by greatauntedna on Apr 15, 2024 18:11:50 GMT
I saw this last week and thought the changes were brilliant. Is it just me thinking the ending this time around implies romance? Always seemed platonic in other versions. No, yes!
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Post by Dr Tom on Apr 17, 2024 10:57:55 GMT
I saw the transfer from the front row yesterday. It took me a few tries with Rush to get front row as it kept offering me second row. Glad I held out.
This has transferred very well and is selling very well. I enjoyed this even more than at the Kiln. I thought they'd tightened this up a bit, and there seemed to be a bit more subtlety regarding the reasons why Robin is so submissive to her sister. That may also just be me misremembering.
The front row is a very good choice for many. The action is much more to audience right (which is where I was sat). I did feel the cast looking at me on multiple occasions, but this was most likely them really trying to avoid falling off the edge of the stage.
There isn't unlimited legroom as others have hinted. There's possibly less than in other rows as you're close to stage and you can't put your feet under the seat in front. The stage is also rather high as there's a revolve that raises everything. The real sweet spot for view and legroom is going to be the centre of Row B, which is also a front row (in that there are no seats in front - Row A is two blocks of 4 with a gap in between), but I don't think that's available as a Rush ticket. I'd certainly sit in Row A again, but I wouldn't recommend it for anyone below about 5'6".
Otherwise, the music has grown on me. I do prefer the style of the first half, but it's good that there's such variety, and all of this shows just how versatile Dujonna and Sam are. As a Heathers fan, I would like to see Ellis Kirk as Dougal, but I'd also be disappointed to not see Sam Tutty. Such problems!
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