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Post by sherriebythesea on Apr 6, 2017 16:26:36 GMT
Baemax is correct, technically, it's theft. I have changed my seats, but I've always asked either an usher or the box office before doing so. That's the right thing to do. If you do move without permission, at least behave - I've noted a correlation between unauthorised moves and scummy behaviour to follow, is all I'm saying Considering all the warnings in posts about watching your behavior I've seen on the board all I can think is that all of you must have witnessed some really rude and inconsiderate things. I promise you all my mother brought me up right . And I will try to control a little "squeal" of amazement that I am actually at a London play when I sit down to my first play in your wonderful town.
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Post by Dawnstar on Apr 6, 2017 18:37:40 GMT
My local theatre allows, and even on occasion encourages, people to move if it's a fairly empty performance (and I still remember Stephanie Beecham coming onstage & encouraging the sparse audience to move forward at the start of Masterclass!). I always ask the ushers first though.
The only time I can think of I've moved in a London theatre recently was when I saw Murder Ballad & I scooted along a couple of seats to be slightly more central rather than on the aisle behind a pillar. Since the entire rest of the row was empty, as were the majority of the seats for several rows behind, I didn't feel I was inconveniencing anyone.
Given my tendency to sit front row stalls whenever I can afford to do so, there often isn't anywhere better for me to move to!
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Post by Mark on Apr 6, 2017 19:40:00 GMT
I can only think of twice I've done it without asking and it was at the Garrick. Once I was in the front row, way too close so I moved back before the show. For this house I moved across the aisle because there was a pillar right in view and a chunk of empty seats.
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Post by d'James on Apr 6, 2017 19:45:41 GMT
I downgraded myself seat-wise today!
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Post by CG on the loose on Apr 6, 2017 19:57:51 GMT
Yep, I've moved further back before now, to give myself a clearer view instead of peering round a tall head. I've also moved sideways and forwards but, in the latter case, only after asking at the interval.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2017 20:08:48 GMT
I've also moved sideways and forwards like an inquisitive crab.
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Post by d'James on Apr 6, 2017 20:19:21 GMT
During the first number they should just play musical chairs. You keep weaving up and down the rows until the music stops, then that's your seat.
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Post by alece10 on Apr 6, 2017 22:45:00 GMT
I really should know this but what us a dance captain?
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Post by theatre-turtle on Apr 6, 2017 22:51:42 GMT
I understand Cam Mac is one of the richest men in entertainment - how did he achieve this without being a creative and also not being an investor? Does he get a salary from the production? I get the impression that for most entertainment businesses the majority of the money goes to whoever owns the creative rights of things e.g. the writers?
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Post by couldileaveyou on Apr 6, 2017 23:00:29 GMT
I really should know this but what us a dance captain? It's what keeps a show as close to the original version as possible. Choreographers rarely come back to give notes like directors, the dance captain has to preserve the choreography and not allow the cast to take too many liberties with it
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Post by Jon on Apr 6, 2017 23:30:07 GMT
I understand Cam Mac is one of the richest men in entertainment - how did he achieve this without being a creative and also not being an investor? Does he get a salary from the production? I get the impression that for most entertainment businesses the majority of the money goes to whoever owns the creative rights of things e.g. the writers? Producers rarely invest their own money in a show (it's rule number 1 of producing according to The Producer), producers get a percentage of the profits once a show has recouped, the creative team will get royalties which would included in the weekly running costs. It'd be interesting if any of the producers of Harry Potter and the Cursed Child invested their own money.
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Post by d'James on Apr 7, 2017 1:53:07 GMT
I asked before and have seen it mentioned since, but can someone tell me what a cut show is? I, apparently, saw an In The Heights 'cut show' but all I noticed were fewer dancers. Do they cut lines or songs in a 'cut show' or is it just fewer cast members on stage?
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Post by Mark on Apr 7, 2017 7:04:43 GMT
I asked before and have seen it mentioned since, but can someone tell me what a cut show is? I, apparently, saw an In The Heights 'cut show' but all I noticed were fewer dancers. Do they cut lines or songs in a 'cut show' or is it just fewer cast members on stage? That's basically it, no cut lines really just a smaller ensemble and maybe some doubled up parts.
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Post by Kim_Bahorel on Apr 7, 2017 10:59:22 GMT
I asked before and have seen it mentioned since, but can someone tell me what a cut show is? I, apparently, saw an In The Heights 'cut show' but all I noticed were fewer dancers. Do they cut lines or songs in a 'cut show' or is it just fewer cast members on stage? What Mark said howevr I did see RENT in London (not when they did the concert version) there were too many off for full show. Right at the end they did have to cut out a scene. I love cut shows if I have seen the show too many times before. Once or twice wouldn't notice a thing.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2017 11:16:53 GMT
On the note of money makers, I've been enjoying 'How did you get so Rich' hosted by Katherine Ryan on CH4, which has detailed some fascinating tales of rich folks, from the former Mafia member to a Big Brother contestant to a teen chess player. But yes most of them have managed to hold on to and increase it via property. Ownership of which now remains as much a dream as the lottery for us mere mortals.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2017 11:19:54 GMT
Does anyone remember that relatively recent article by a millennial who managed to pay off all her student loans by the simple technique of being gifted a condo by her mother, accepting a well-paid job from her mother, moving in with her grandmother and renting out the original condo, and buying more property with her nepotastic wages and the rent from the condo, and rounding it all off with an "it's SIMPLE, if *I* can do it, *anyone* can do it!"? I mean, yeah, I'm sure I *could* pay off my student loans if people were willing to throw great wealth at me, but what a disgusting display of unrecognised privilege that article was.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2017 11:24:59 GMT
Does anyone remember that relatively recent article by a millennial who managed to pay off all her student loans by the simple technique of being gifted a condo by her mother, accepting a well-paid job from her mother, moving in with her grandmother and renting out the original condo, and buying more property with her nepotastic wages and the rent from the condo, and rounding it all off with an "it's SIMPLE, if *I* can do it, *anyone* can do it!"? I mean, yeah, I'm sure I *could* pay off my student loans if people were willing to throw great wealth at me, but what a disgusting display of unrecognised privilege that article was. YES
And I do not have enough CAPITALS AND KEYBOARD SMASHES GIASDFHLSDFKSG to convey my rage at that.
If *only* I'd known the answer was my Mother getting me a well paid job and giving me a house. OF COURSE.
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Post by d'James on Apr 7, 2017 11:41:43 GMT
Ooh. Who was that? Don't suppose you have a link?!
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Post by Jon on Apr 7, 2017 13:26:53 GMT
He began as one of the poorest, learning his craft and being broke regularly for 20 years. He then took a massive chance on "Cats" which paid off. Once the show had paid its backers, he took management fees for years. Same went for his next 3 shows, pretty much. At that time, it was possible to buy property and get a reasonable interest rate on other investments. These he did, as well as buying rights to other shows to licence and do other things of course that helped that capital grow. The results of the way the UK economy has gone simply means that anyone who bought property 20 or so years ago has amassed a phenomenal "paper profit" - particularly if, as Sir C has - you have a mixed residential and commercial property portfolio. Partly, I laugh a bit at the "Millionaires" on "Dragon's Den" for similar reasons, and a lot of others. Sure, they got wealthy from their creativity, but it is the shift in their property portfolios that gets them into the "Sunday Times Rich List." The income his theatres generate from rent alone is probably a nice earner although to be fair, he does invest money back into them and it does show when you visit the likes of The Prince Edward, Gielgud etc
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2017 14:32:56 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2017 14:38:43 GMT
ALSO I know living expenses are relative yadda yadda but she was making the equivalent of £30,000 a year and 'barely covering expenses'? hurmph.
Although currently a friend of mine isn't speaking to me after I politely pointed out that on the salary I know he's on-which is more than double my own-that I was not perhaps the best person to complain about lack of money to...(at least he followed my instructions at least?)
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Post by Dawnstar on Apr 7, 2017 14:54:20 GMT
It made me feel sick rather than want to scream but other than that... The horror of only having 2 cars so when 1 breaks you're down to a mere 1!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2017 18:55:42 GMT
While everyone's situation is different — not everybody can move back home, and not everybody will have a small rental property gifted to them
They say that like it's a triviality instead of a life-changing event. "Oh, not much happened yesterday: got up, did some shopping, had a pizza, got a guaranteed roof over my head for life, watched some TV. You know, the usual sort of stuff."
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Post by Tibidabo on Apr 12, 2017 11:05:18 GMT
Could someone explain what a casting director actually does? I can understand if they need to find all the extras for Ben Hur, but in the programme for Love in Idleness the casting director gets a longer schpeel than some of the actors. There are only SIX of them. Surely the director chooses his cast? (Especially if he's Trevor Nunn!)
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2017 11:08:57 GMT
Make sure you're not in a quiet room while you read it, you'll probably want to scream: Baemax REALLY is not kidding on this warning, folks. I think someone in the next street to my home just dialled 999 a few seconds after I read that article... I just came into the thread for a new post. Got reminded of that news story. Needed to go up to the roof and scream again.
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