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Post by chernjam on Mar 14, 2024 16:48:42 GMT
I'm no doubt being oversensitive (and yes, in other threads I would be the one reminding the fandom that it's showBUSINESS etc etc) - but it is rather annoying that the objective of the LONDON cast recording is now to increase the NYC sales. And not reward those of us who almost bankrupt ourselves seeing it repeatedly at The Savoy! #RantOver On the flip side of the coin though, you may not be getting a recording at all if it wasn't for a potential transfer. There's a chance they only recorded it in order to help publicise a potential Broadway run. I actually think the frustration should run the other way - the fact they've done a "cheap" live London recording means it might never get a "proper" Broadway cast studio recording. Company and Back to the Future both sold the London recordings exclusively and never bothered re-recording after their Broadway transfers (despite Company otherwise trying its best to pretend the London run never happened!) Granted they were studio recordings, but still. I'm sensitive to the fact that it's, as BVM points out its showBUSINESS  and its easy for us to pontificate on what should/should not happen; how much money "they" have, etc. and have no idea about the actual financial workings behind the scenes. London is far more closed-mouth about those things than NY. And as ALW shared when POTO closed, its insane how much more expensive it is for anything to open on Broadway. (The number of openings and closings here this year has been dizzying and hard to keep track of) I get that even for a super fan like me, who'd be willing to fork over the price of a ticket to the theatre for a properly recorded, full length version of Sunset I'm in the minority and that ALW, et al can't look to me for their financial prospects. Once I've bought my one copy, that's it (unless I gift it to others) and with so many digital ways of sharing/stealing it, I can appreciate the good old days when a new CD would arrive and people would run out to buy them are long gone. All that being said, it is confusing for a super-fan to see Sondheim revivals get re-recorded every time there's a new production. It's no secret that most of Sondheim shows and productions have never come near being the juggernauts that ALW shows have. So maybe he has fans backing him and his productions knowing that they're not going to recoup most of their investment and don't care - they just do it for the art. In any event, I'm hopeful that with this production that perhaps ALW is finally getting the artistic appreciation he's always deserved along with the audience acclaim. I honestly can't remember reading such critical praise for anything he's done since I've followed him when Sunset had its World Premiere - now coupled with the sell outs it was receiving at the Savoy. So perhaps they're being cautious in not over-marketing this? And trying to be strategic and respectful of critics, (and now Olivier voters) as well as audiences in planning a release of a recording? |
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Post by BVM on Mar 14, 2024 16:51:30 GMT
I'm no doubt being oversensitive (and yes, in other threads I would be the one reminding the fandom that it's showBUSINESS etc etc) - but it is rather annoying that the objective of the LONDON cast recording is now to increase the NYC sales. And not reward those of us who almost bankrupt ourselves seeing it repeatedly at The Savoy! #RantOver . I actually think the frustration should run the other way - the fact they've done a "cheap" live London recording means it might never get a "proper" Broadway cast studio recording. Company and Back to the Future both sold the London recordings exclusively and never bothered re-recording after their Broadway transfers (despite Company otherwise trying its best to pretend the London run never happened!) Granted they were studio recordings, but still. Oh I agree entirely! And in fact that taps nicely into another pet peeve of mine - the fact that Broadway shows are so much better at getting cast recordings full stop. London lags way behind; especially for revivals (Cam Mac aside who is an example to everyone else; well, mainly to ALW as they both have money). But yes you are right - if this has meant it happens at all, that is good. In terms of live being cheap, I don't think that's necessarily the case. Some are, but the Cam Mac and all the Vienna live recordings are exceptionally high quality (and ALW is obsessive about this stuff). Historically I also generally prefer studio recordings as can't bear audience noise - but Sunset was such an intense experience, I honestly feel that live is the way to go for this one. |
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Post by erik24601 on Mar 14, 2024 16:59:07 GMT
The problem is, cast recordings don't make money anymore through direct sales so they are only really an asset to a production for future life of the show.
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Post by normasturban on Mar 14, 2024 17:23:46 GMT
Count me in the group that doesn’t usually enjoy live recordings but so strongly associating my memories of the show with the sound reverberating around the Savoy that I’m very excited to hear a live recording.
Pressed on blood red vinyl and a booklet, thanks Andy.
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Post by ceebee on Mar 14, 2024 18:28:46 GMT
The problem is, cast recordings don't make money anymore through direct sales so they are only really an asset to a production for future life of the show. Collectibles do - and ALW gets this, so perhaps he'll influence the formats. |
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Post by bobbievanhusen on Mar 15, 2024 2:39:44 GMT
And not reward those of us who almost bankrupt ourselves seeing it repeatedly at The Savoy! Spoken like a true Phan! lol |
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Post by BVM on Mar 15, 2024 8:27:40 GMT
And not reward those of us who almost bankrupt ourselves seeing it repeatedly at The Savoy! Spoken like a true Phan! lol Ha! Never lol! |
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Post by iamluisfelipe on Mar 15, 2024 12:43:52 GMT
Adam Higgs, who's part of the orchestra, just posted this. ITS COMING
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Post by A.Ham on Mar 15, 2024 13:06:12 GMT
Good news it’s coming but I’m getting impatient having to wait! I wonder if they’ll do a run of CDs or vinyl signed by Nicole Scherzinger, given this is a regular sales tactic for new releases nowadays? I was able to order the Funny Girl cast recording with Sheridan’s signature on the front. Do love the blood red vinyl suggestion too!
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Post by chernjam on Mar 15, 2024 13:16:50 GMT
Adam Higgs, who's part of the orchestra, just posted this. ITS COMING This is the closest to official confirmation I've seen - so I'm pretty psyched. Great news on this the ides of March  |
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Post by iamluisfelipe on Mar 15, 2024 16:50:40 GMT
This is where it was stated that the recording had been made. Maybe bellatheatre has more info now? A clip was just played on Radio 2 as part of their Oliviers news story that sounded very much like an official recording. Fingers crossed. Do you recall which Radio 2 show? |
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Mar 15, 2024 18:28:47 GMT
That tweet has been taken down which probably means it was true.
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Post by iamluisfelipe on Mar 15, 2024 19:45:13 GMT
That tweet has been taken down which probably means it was true. He turned his account private, but the tweet remains there. - Here's the screenshot btw if anyone missed it: |
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Post by erik24601 on Mar 16, 2024 1:19:21 GMT
A clip was just played on Radio 2 as part of their Oliviers news story that sounded very much like an official recording. Fingers crossed. Do you recall which Radio 2 show? 5pm news on 12th March so halfway through the Sara Cox Show that day. |
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Post by BVM on Mar 16, 2024 12:49:02 GMT
LOL re a dude from the orchestra piquing such interest from a hint that the OLC may be coming that he had to change his account to private!
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Post by apubleed on Mar 17, 2024 11:37:08 GMT
I usually hate live recordings but I have a funny feeling that we are going to find Nicole’s vocals more exciting and stunning with the energy of a live performance than in a cold studio. At least I’ll keep telling myself this until we hear otherwise!
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Post by max on Mar 17, 2024 11:51:16 GMT
Did we ever hear the organ? Did Max ever mime it? I can't remember. My thought is that neither happened? In which case, what was an audience who don't know the show supposed to make of this line:
"The house was always so quiet. Just me and Max and that organ" Ahem.
Or did they cut the line?
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Post by iamluisfelipe on Mar 19, 2024 20:08:10 GMT
Do you recall which Radio 2 show? 5pm news on 12th March so halfway through the Sara Cox Show that day. Oh thank you! Just went back on that episode to hear it. Unfortunately they used the same snippet from the SB teaser. But it does sound like a professional recording. A live one. |
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Post by chernjam on Mar 20, 2024 1:33:52 GMT
Does anyone know who votes for the Olivier Awards? I was curious if its like here in NY where producers send voters some promotional stuff from their shows to advocate for their shows? Just thinking that perhaps they were sending the recordings to the voters first as an exclusive before making it available
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Post by Dave B on Mar 20, 2024 8:50:26 GMT
Does anyone know who votes for the Olivier Awards?
I imagine some of our members here (lurking or otherwise) have a vote.
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Post by Alejo on Mar 25, 2024 14:11:15 GMT
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Post by A.Ham on Mar 25, 2024 14:12:14 GMT
Presale just confirmed for 2nd April for Broadway, and performances begin 28 Sept (almost exactly a year on from the start of the London run). Sign up at sunsetblvdbroadway.com/ |
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Mar 25, 2024 14:23:09 GMT
Finally! The info chernjam has yearned for 🥳 |
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Post by solotheatregoer on Mar 25, 2024 14:28:36 GMT
Any idea how long this is likely to run for?
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Post by solangelafitte on Mar 25, 2024 14:32:59 GMT
While I'm grateful it's happening it at all I can't believe we have to wait until October 😭
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and its easy for us to pontificate on what should/should not happen; how much money "they" have, etc. and have no idea about the actual financial workings behind the scenes. London is far more closed-mouth about those things than NY. And as ALW shared when POTO closed, its insane how much more expensive it is for anything to open on Broadway. (The number of openings and closings here this year has been dizzying and hard to keep track of) I get that even for a super fan like me, who'd be willing to fork over the price of a ticket to the theatre for a properly recorded, full length version of Sunset I'm in the minority and that ALW, et al can't look to me for their financial prospects. Once I've bought my one copy, that's it (unless I gift it to others) and with so many digital ways of sharing/stealing it, I can appreciate the good old days when a new CD would arrive and people would run out to buy them are long gone.
