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Post by benj on Nov 17, 2024 16:53:51 GMT
Agreed - although I'm also a Greg Ellis fan. I stick by what I said when Crazy was released - there is no emotion or performance in this 'Rusty' (at least on the recording). Very much 'singing-by-numbers'. I've got to be honest, having seen the show with Scott Haywood as Rusty, this recording has been somewhat of a disappointment compared to his vocals which suited the score better and with more warmth and exuberance in songs like Crazy. I saw the show last night with a single seat offer for the first class carriage section. It was my first time seeing Scott Hayward as Rusty and he was brilliant. He acted the part so well and actually made me believe he was in love with Pearl. He very quickly had the audience on his side. He’s perfect in the role. Also a fantastic skater! I think he should be first cast personally. His experience really shines though. Lara was on as Greaseball and she was fantastic as well. A really fun evening and I heard lots of “can we see it again” comments as we left the theatre. People really do love this show. |
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Post by benj on Nov 17, 2024 16:55:45 GMT
I think it's pretty clear cut that when it closes in Wembley and if they can be bothered to move the production, it will go up North. Unlock a "new market". I think that would be a bad idea. I can’t see people travelling up north to see this. |
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Post by pineapple4you on Nov 17, 2024 17:00:13 GMT
I think it's pretty clear cut that when it closes in Wembley and if they can be bothered to move the production, it will go up North. Unlock a "new market". I think that would be a bad idea. I can’t see people travelling up north to see this. People do already live in the North 😂 |
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Post by Phantom of London on Nov 17, 2024 17:15:15 GMT
They’re not going to spend millions reshaping the Gillian Lynne, for a show that is already running in London. Obviously the show is doing well in London and when it comes to pack up, I could see the show doing a mini sit-down in Manchester and maybe Edinburgh, before going abroad maybe the US or Japan & Australia. Then it might come back to London.
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Post by benj on Nov 17, 2024 17:38:37 GMT
I think that would be a bad idea. I can’t see people travelling up north to see this. People do already live in the North 😂 Yes, I know - my family do! But when tourists come to London to see shows, they often have other plans and make a weekend of it. I don’t think our northern cities have that same level of tourism. Especially not foreign tourism, with the exception of Edinburgh possibly, but even Edinburgh is quite a small city. I think Starlight could have another long London run if they would just put it back in a West End theatre. |
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Post by thecursedexpress on Nov 17, 2024 21:47:40 GMT
People do already live in the North 😂 Yes, I know - my family do! But when tourists come to London to see shows, they often have other plans and make a weekend of it. I don’t think our northern cities have that same level of tourism. Especially not foreign tourism, with the exception of Edinburgh possibly, but even Edinburgh is quite a small city. I think Starlight could have another long London run if they would just put it back in a West End theatre. Honestly I think Birmingham would be back on the cards if they want a space like Bochum in the UK (That's what was planned for 2020 before covid hit and went silent). Edinburgh theatres won't accommodate it (I work in some and there is not enough space backstage or even on stage for that matter). If they would want to bring it up to Scotland, Glasgow might be the best bet with a space occupied in SECC or if they go an Arena Tour style maybe Hydro. I feel like the only way they might try to strike a deal with a theatre to do it like Apollo Victoria to make it have a WE transfer and like I have said before Dominion would be perfect I feel but this seems like a dream like scenario. To be honest ALW probably regrets closing it on the West End, especially when I heard in 2001 the tracks got the revamp to close a year later. |
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Post by benj on Nov 17, 2024 23:24:20 GMT
Yes, I know - my family do! But when tourists come to London to see shows, they often have other plans and make a weekend of it. I don’t think our northern cities have that same level of tourism. Especially not foreign tourism, with the exception of Edinburgh possibly, but even Edinburgh is quite a small city. I think Starlight could have another long London run if they would just put it back in a West End theatre. Honestly I think Birmingham would be back on the cards if they want a space like Bochum in the UK (That's what was planned for 2020 before covid hit and went silent). Edinburgh theatres won't accommodate it (I work in some and there is not enough space backstage or even on stage for that matter). If they would want to bring it up to Scotland, Glasgow might be the best bet with a space occupied in SECC or if they go an Arena Tour style maybe Hydro. I feel like the only way they might try to strike a deal with a theatre to do it like Apollo Victoria to make it have a WE transfer and like I have said before Dominion would be perfect I feel but this seems like a dream like scenario. To be honest ALW probably regrets closing it on the West End, especially when I heard in 2001 the tracks got the revamp to close a year later. It was still selling well when it closed in the West End. ALW just wanted the theatre for his new show - Bombay Dreams. There were no financial reasons to close it. It seems a no-brainer to me - people love this show. It’s a great option for families and has huge name recognition. Look how well Lion King is still doing… |
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Post by Jon on Nov 18, 2024 0:40:35 GMT
It's unlikely to return to the West End simply because ALW prefers the setup they have in Wembley and if it worked in Wembley then it could work else in London which has similar if not better connections like the O2, Stratford, Battersea etc
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Post by Phantom of London on Nov 18, 2024 7:49:52 GMT
This show isn’t going to go into any conventional theatre when it tours, some warehouse somewhere. Could work as an arena show. I assume the set being used is not site specific and designed with a further life in mind.
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Post by mrbarnaby on Nov 18, 2024 8:10:45 GMT
Just waiting for someone to say “I could see this fitting in the Garrick”
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Post by amyja89 on Nov 18, 2024 10:13:07 GMT
The Fortune maybe? 😉
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Post by benj on Nov 18, 2024 12:05:04 GMT
Actor-musician version in the Arts?
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Post by thecursedexpress on Nov 18, 2024 12:29:57 GMT
Actor-musician version in the Arts? Literally what the workshop was in 2017 at The Other Palace. |
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Post by erik24601 on Nov 18, 2024 13:26:31 GMT
Charing Cross Theatre FTW. At least the sound of the underground trains running could be moulded into the sound design.
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Post by d'James on Nov 22, 2024 3:19:31 GMT
Unusual situation where an understudy was having to sign copies of the cast recording they aren’t playing that character on.
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Post by fiyero on Nov 22, 2024 13:24:03 GMT
Unusual situation where an understudy was having to sign copies of the cast recording they aren’t playing that character on. That did concern me when they specifically said 2 characters would be signing on a certain day, knowing how much covers are on recently (and I love covers!) |
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Post by r3nnrose on Nov 22, 2024 14:42:29 GMT
Unusual situation where an understudy was having to sign copies of the cast recording they aren’t playing that character on. actually, she wasn’t even ON the cast recording I believe? Lara Vina Uzcatia has been on as Greaseball the past few days, and if I remember correctly she’s an offstage swing? Correct me if I’m wrong lol |
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Post by thecursedexpress on Nov 22, 2024 22:25:38 GMT
Unusual situation where an understudy was having to sign copies of the cast recording they aren’t playing that character on. actually, she wasn’t even ON the cast recording I believe? Lara Vina Uzcatia has been on as Greaseball the past few days, and if I remember correctly she’s an offstage swing? Correct me if I’m wrong lol Yes Lara is a swing. |
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Post by d'James on Nov 23, 2024 11:12:39 GMT
Anyone know what they performed at The Royal Variety last night?
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Post by mrbarnaby on Nov 24, 2024 11:12:35 GMT
Anyone know what they performed at The Royal Variety last night? If it was that god awful Hydrogen song, I’m going to smash my tv |
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Post by max on Nov 24, 2024 13:30:58 GMT
Andrew Lloyd Webber and Lin Manuel Miranda circle round eachother a bit - both putting out albums in the same week ('Sunset Blvd' & 'The Warriors'), both claiming the albums are like Audio Dramas, both with Black and Red graphics (LMM must have known, as it was the 'Sunset Blvd' branding long before).
It made me think that if 'The Warriors' had come out much earlier, this new 'Starlight Express' might have taken an influence and been more urban, tough, and more percussive with traffic and train noises in response.
But now I've heard most of the 'Starlight Express' new recording I really enjoyed the level of percussive and industrial sounds they've got, even restoring (through Jeavan Braich as 'Rusty') some train vocalisations begun with 'Engine Of Love' right at the very start of the show's long journey of being written and re-written. I wish there was even more though.
I probably won't see this, because as someone likes to say: 'you can't listen to music if you can't look at it'; but I like the sound of it, as far as it goes.
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Post by ladidah on Nov 25, 2024 9:12:46 GMT
Anyone know what they performed at The Royal Variety last night? If it was that god awful Hydrogen song, I’m going to smash my tv It's not a matter of if...it's a matter of when  |
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Post by blamerobots on Nov 26, 2024 11:06:15 GMT
Anyone got their CDs yet? Would love to hear how it sounds in comparison to streaming to test a thought of mine.
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Post by BVM on Nov 26, 2024 11:15:19 GMT
Anyone got their CDs yet? Would love to hear how it sounds in comparison to streaming to test a thought of mine. Yes! Pretty much identical I'd say. Well a bit better but think that's just because I listen to CDs via big speakers in my living room and streaming usually EarPods on the go..... The theories that the delay in release was to update Crazy to the newer version were sadly incorrect. I still umm and ahh on the "sound" of this OLC a lot, but increasingly agree with ceebee the arrangements are in the main (well, there are lots of small changes) the same as in the theatre. But the sound system in the theatre really adds a stadium type sound richness that they've struggled to recreate on record. (Though I do remain a bit baffled that most pop music is produced with keys/guitars/drums and a lot of computerised and synthed shenanigans - so same as this - and still sounds very full on record and similar to how it is live). Safe to say this new Starlight recording leaves me fairly perplexed! (Yet confident sadly that it ranks poorly compared to all the other Starlight cast recordings out there; even if they are few and far between). |
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Post by blamerobots on Nov 26, 2024 12:07:11 GMT
I do ask about it because I had a thought that the streaming versions were a "vocal up" version, usually made so the vocals are more intelligible on grotty speakers like cheap headphones or car stereos. Wondered if the CD version was a different mix as CD and Vinyls are to be listened to in different contexts.
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