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Post by nash16 on Jun 23, 2016 1:58:43 GMT
So, essentially, this is like 'Game'? A weak script with a great design? The design is only great in the last five minutes. That's a long wait for anything great...
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Post by Latecomer on Jun 23, 2016 5:36:12 GMT
So, essentially, this is like 'Game'? A weak script with a great design? The design is only great in the last five minutes. That's a long wait for anything great... And the dramatic bit went wrong again yesterday matinee....stage manager came on, apologised, curtain down, 3 mins wait, then up with curtain and carry on......you would think they could have got it working perfectly by now!
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Post by Steve on Jun 23, 2016 8:05:02 GMT
Please Can you Do a detailed spoiler for me On the ending and set etc. I am not seeing until next week and am impatient! As a people pleaser, I want to do as you ask. But no, in this case, that would be wrong. Not only would other people be tempted to click on that spoiler, and ruin the surprise for themselves, but I want you to have the surprise. No spoiler can have the impact of seeing the the ending for yourself, but it will certainly ruin it for you. And I don't want to give you an excuse not to go, either, as this show is bound to crop up every time someone starts a "Best coups de theatre" thread, and as a connoisseur of theatre, you need to have seen it for yourself. If by the end of the run, you say you still haven't seen it, I promise I will spoil it for you then.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2016 8:23:53 GMT
If by the end of the run, you say you still haven't seen it, I promise I will spoil it for you then. You spoilt every other detail of Wild.
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Post by Steve on Jun 23, 2016 10:08:30 GMT
You spoilt every other detail of Wild. No, I haven't. I haven't revealed who Andrew's questioners are, who they each are working for, what their agendas are, or whether they are working together. I haven't revealed what they do to him. I have simply said that from the set-up (alone, in a Russian hotel room, with no life left), it doesn't matter to me what they do. He starts out with nothing to lose, so if they do nothing to him, it is boring; and if they do terrible things, it is undramatic torture porn. I am saying "Who cares?" either way. I have revealed one thing that Bartlett is trying to say, but Bartlett is saying a million things, and it's hardly news that google and facebook spy on us. If you want to know much much more, read Billington's review. And HG, if you really want to know nothing at all about plays, a message board about plays might not be the smartest place to hang out. That said, I do hope you keep torturing us all, as it's certainly more dramatic than the play lol.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2016 12:29:30 GMT
And HG, if you really want to know nothing at all about plays, a message board about plays might not be the smartest place to hang out. That said, I do hope you keep torturing us all, as it's certainly more dramatic than the play lol. Yes, I'm only reading about Wild because I won't see it. Otherwise I wouldn't read until afterwards.
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Post by peelee on Jun 23, 2016 16:35:15 GMT
This play has no interval, so if you're in the habit of walking out halfway through then this play is designed to let you walk out before you even walk in.
While watching this play, I found my mind wandered.
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Post by Phantom of London on Jun 25, 2016 12:47:04 GMT
A play tha is typical Broadway fair, low on dramatic plat, but high on spectacle, however the Americans hate self analysis think Enron.
As others have correctly observed it is a coup de theatre in the last 5 minutes, however before that you get the curtain down to prepare you hear a lot of noise behind the curtain, then it comes up and you see no change.
Interesting reading in the Standard Henry Hitchens 2 Star review, that reads more like a 3 Star review, that's what happens when you have a Arts Editor hand out the stars.
2 Stars for me another piece like Game, where the set dominates the talking points, so therefore fail.
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Post by peggs on Jul 9, 2016 22:51:50 GMT
This felt a bit smug to me, like it thought it was cleverer that it really was. In truth I'm not entirely sure what it was trying to say, perhaps now that i can read back through others comments and some reviews I will get a clearer idea because I was at a bit of a loss as was the woman on the tube afterwards who asked the programme reading man what he thought it was about, he was noncommittal. And the ending, what was that about exactly? I mean from an 'oohh the set can do this' it was interesting and on a structural basis I was curious about the mechanics but I'm not sure why it happened. Did it seem like a flat ending? Was the ending thought of first and the play added in?
I quite liked the Miss Prism character, the ladies next to me thought the actress overplayed it but I rather thought that was the point.
Had been pre warned about possible faint risk so duly shut eyes and ears at what I thought was the right moment and was duly bemused when I opened them and found the man sat in a sparkly red cowboy hat.
Overall confirmed by earlier thought that i'd made the wrong call and should have booked for the Lawrence of Arabia play instead.
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Post by showgirl on Jul 10, 2016 5:24:39 GMT
I quite enjoyed this (saw yesterday's matinee, which although not advertised as sold out, looked it to me), unlike several other acclaimed Mike Bartlett plays. It seemed to go down pretty well with the audience, too: some standing ovations and much whooping at the end. For me 1 hour 45 with no interval was pushing it, so I was struggling with physical discomfort after an hour and think they could have inserted an interval without damaging the effect as it was quite a slow, teasing play; either that or the pace could have been tightened a little, though arguably the sense of waiting and killing time was intentional.
In my opinion certainly an improvement on Charles III, during which I literally lost the plot (and any interest in the seemingly interminable proceedings), or the utter dud that was Love, Love, Love.
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Post by n1david on Jul 12, 2016 12:53:43 GMT
Saw this last night, gosh it felt like a slog until we got to the coup which was unquestionably impressive but, as someone else said here, had the net effect of everyone stopping listening to the words explaining why the coup was relevant. Husband had different views on this but I found the female character one of the most annoying characters I've seen on stage, to the extent of her attempts at 'humour' making my skin crawl, so I guess there was something I couldn't connect with.
Just as well we're not all the same, I adored Charles III and loved Love, Love, Love - but this was just a drag for me. Too much exposition and the final payoff isn't earned by what has gone before.
Was glad to have got this far without finding out what happened, though. Thanks everyone for not spoiling...
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2016 13:07:36 GMT
I feel like such a minority on this, I was genuinely enjoying it for itself all the way up to The Moment, and I *really* enjoyed Caoilfhionn Dunne's performance (and the chaps weren't bad either).
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Post by peggs on Jul 12, 2016 19:01:09 GMT
I feel like such a minority on this, I was genuinely enjoying it for itself all the way up to The Moment, and I *really* enjoyed Caoilfhionn Dunne's performance (and the chaps weren't bad either). Maybe just on here Baemax, there were ovating audience members when i went and I liked Caoilfhionn's Dunne's performance, it was mostly the play I had issue with but we'd rather doom the forum to nothingness if we all agreed so thank goodness we don't.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2016 19:17:33 GMT
I officially can't afford to go to this now and it closes on Saturday so can someone do a spoiler thingy and spill the beans on the coup? I is DESPERATE to know! I'm queen of the coups!!
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Post by chameleon on Jul 12, 2016 19:49:36 GMT
I think they may have extended by a week?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2016 21:25:40 GMT
Yeah, they've extended to the 23rd. I don't mind doing the deed, but not until after it closes, so as not to be a temptation for anyone else.
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Post by showgirl on Jul 13, 2016 3:41:13 GMT
At the risk of a chorus of disapproval (!), I didn't think the great coup was one. Possibly because my expectations + curiosity had been raised to ridiculous heights, but after so much anticipation, I found myself thinking "Is that it?" Plus, n1david's comment about the distraction effect rings true for me.
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Post by Snciole on Jul 19, 2016 10:21:27 GMT
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Post by foxa on Jul 19, 2016 12:19:29 GMT
And also good news for those of us who saw it early on when things weren't entirely working!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2016 21:16:38 GMT
Glad I didn't get a ticket!
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Post by theatreliker on Jul 19, 2016 21:56:39 GMT
Yeah, I'm pleased they're live streaming this. Interested to see this scene change.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2016 18:22:03 GMT
Bum, forgot to watch it. The coup? Anyone?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2016 18:26:14 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2016 19:29:19 GMT
Yeah it's on til 12am but gotta watch the Big Brother Final!
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Post by foxa on Jul 26, 2016 19:56:15 GMT
Then watch the first ten minutes and the last ten minutes of it - that's pretty much all you really need to see. Do it during one of the boring post-eviction interviews.
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