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Post by musicalslive on Jun 24, 2024 14:54:00 GMT
Will they add new stops for this tour?
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Post by ceebee on Jun 24, 2024 15:33:48 GMT
Does anybody know whether Ian McIntosh is still in this show? Two understudy Jesi today - mat and eve. I think I've seen McIntosh once in the role. If they need to use an u/s at least put Luke Street on who is head and shoulders above everybody else vocally. I saw the show in Woking a few weeks ago and didn’t see Ian the day I went (Saturday) I missed him in WWRY last year too. I didn’t specifically see the shows to see him so wasn’t bothered either way. Is the alternate Jesus Northern Irish? I thought I could detect an accent! Really enjoyed the show but could do without the choreography- that got really tiresome pretty quickly! Yes, he is - I couldn't stand his take on the role. That and the terrible sound in Bromley early did for me, but thankfully Luke Street's performance saved the show. |
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Post by ceebee on Jun 24, 2024 15:34:43 GMT
Will they add new stops for this tour? If they do, I hope they recast Jesus and give the role to the person who plays it best and has filled in ALOT on this tour. |
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Post by 141920grm on Jun 24, 2024 16:05:43 GMT
Will they add new stops for this tour? If they do, I hope they recast Jesus and give the role to the person who plays it best and has filled in ALOT on this tour. so.... Charlie? Yeah I'm for that |
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Post by ceebee on Jun 24, 2024 18:14:26 GMT
If they do, I hope they recast Jesus and give the role to the person who plays it best and has filled in ALOT on this tour. so.... Charlie? Yeah I'm for that My preference would be Luke Street, but each to their own. |
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Post by ronnette on Jun 24, 2024 23:02:38 GMT
Will they add new stops for this tour? I doubt it. The Amateur licence is now available again (I have it for next year) but not allowed to advertise my production if it until the tour finishes in September. |
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Post by ceebee on Jul 13, 2024 11:18:52 GMT
This tour can't end soon enough for me. Yet again today we have 'understudy Jesus' on. In 7 out of 8 performances that I've seen of this tour, Ian McIntosh has failed to perform. Now, if this evening's performance was Luke Street, I'd be very happy. Alas, it's Charlie McCullagh doing both shows today, and I'm sure he has many fans but I'm not one and I'm not sure I can even be bothered to battle through Southend Pride day to go and see the performance this evening. I nearly walked out of Bromley when I saw / heard him last. Yet the producers have stage dynamite in Luke Street and leave him understatedly poncing around as Simon instead of using his powerful vocal and stage presence for the role of Jesus. I was thrilled when Ian McIntosh was announced for this tour - shame he's only done one show out the eight I booked. Very disappointing all round.
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Post by BVM on Jul 13, 2024 11:29:42 GMT
This tour can't end soon enough for me. Yet again today we have 'understudy Jesus' on. In 7 out of 8 performances that I've seen of this tour, Ian McIntosh has failed to perform. Now, if this evening's performance was Luke Street, I'd be very happy. Alas, it's Charlie McCullagh doing both shows today, and I'm sure he has many fans but I'm not one and I'm not sure I can even be bothered to battle through Southend Pride day to go and see the performance this evening. I nearly walked out of Bromley when I saw / heard him last. Yet the producers have stage dynamite in Luke Street and leave him understatedly poncing around as Simon instead of using his powerful vocal and stage presence for the role of Jesus. I was thrilled when Ian McIntosh was announced for this tour - shame he's only done one show out the eight I booked. Very disappointing all round. You’ve been ever so unlucky ceebee! I’ve seen the tour 15 times (yes really lol) and Ian has done all of them other than one which I’d booked deliberately as was a scheduled Luke one. Agree it’s odd to have Luke but use Charlie. But think it’s cos he was the official u/s and alternate from the start (and Luke was Judas) and was only later Luke was added as a Jesus. Poss the company mgt don’t wanna challenge the initial decisions? But no doubt Luke is insanely good! Ian being off a lot seems a relatively recent (but widely reported) thing. I’d say go though! Such an epic production that will poss never be on in UK again after this. (I’m doing Glasgow for this reason lol). |
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Post by BVM on Jul 13, 2024 11:33:53 GMT
Probability and chance are a funny thing.
I had to go to the Covid OAT version 9 times before I saw Riccardo and the young Latin (forgot his name sorry) Jesus.
Had 8 Declan and Tyrone shows before….
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Post by blamerobots on Jul 13, 2024 11:39:05 GMT
Alas, it's Charlie McCullagh doing both shows today, and I'm sure he has many fans but I'm not one and I'm not sure I can even be bothered to battle through Southend Pride day to go and see the performance this evening. If you've ever been to Southend, there's nothing to be prideful about  Jokes aside, apparently the Southend leg hasn't been doing well. Seems like the Cliffs can't catch a break! I hope the recent absences haven't been because of that. Edit: Another thing you've got to think about is that this musical basically eats singers for breakfast lunch and dinner so I wouldn't be surprised if they'll start doing a revolving cast thing so they can rest for a day or two. |
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Post by ceebee on Jul 13, 2024 11:47:31 GMT
Probability and chance are a funny thing. I had to go to the Covid OAT version 9 times before I saw Riccardo and the young Latin (forgot his name sorry) Jesus. Had 8 Declan and Tyrone shows before…. I got lucky with OAT and Barbican. In fairness, I've probably seen this version 50+ times over the years since Regents Park (two seasons, plus covid season, Barbican season then UK tour) and have been lucky. My frustration is more the under-utilisation of Luke Street - the guy needs a regular big role in a big show. |
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Post by ceebee on Jul 13, 2024 11:52:11 GMT
Alas, it's Charlie McCullagh doing both shows today, and I'm sure he has many fans but I'm not one and I'm not sure I can even be bothered to battle through Southend Pride day to go and see the performance this evening. If you've ever been to Southend, there's nothing to be prideful about Jokes aside, apparently the Southend leg hasn't been doing well. Seems like the Cliffs can't catch a break! I hope the recent absences haven't been because of that. Edit: Another thing you've got to think about is that this musical basically eats singers for breakfast lunch and dinner so I wouldn't be surprised if they'll start doing a revolving cast thing so they can rest for a day or two. Aaaah, Southend is alright! I used to do the car cruises in my late teens, beeping at the girls, giving it the 'oi oi' Engerland fan type banter. How times change... or maybe not... Anyway, I'm hoping Charlie overdoes it in the matinee and enables Luke to close Southend. Never been to the theatre before but it looks like it could be quite parochial and smell a little of OAPs. |
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Post by BVM on Jul 13, 2024 11:52:43 GMT
Probability and chance are a funny thing. I had to go to the Covid OAT version 9 times before I saw Riccardo and the young Latin (forgot his name sorry) Jesus. Had 8 Declan and Tyrone shows before…. I got lucky with OAT and Barbican. In fairness, I've probably seen this version 50+ times over the years since Regents Park (two seasons, plus covid season, Barbican season then UK tour) and have been lucky. My frustration is more the under-utilisation of Luke Street - the guy needs a regular big role in a big show. Agreed. He’s insanely talented. He deserves more but wondering if he’ll get alternate Strat again given his association with Bat…. |
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Post by ceebee on Jul 13, 2024 11:58:21 GMT
I got lucky with OAT and Barbican. In fairness, I've probably seen this version 50+ times over the years since Regents Park (two seasons, plus covid season, Barbican season then UK tour) and have been lucky. My frustration is more the under-utilisation of Luke Street - the guy needs a regular big role in a big show. Agreed. He’s insanely talented. He deserves more but wondering if he’ll get alternate Strat again given his association with Bat…. I'll take that if he publishes his schedule. I don't normally track individual artists but he forced himself in to my radar with his versatility and I'm keen to see what he does next. |
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Post by BVM on Jul 13, 2024 12:02:44 GMT
Agreed. He’s insanely talented. He deserves more but wondering if he’ll get alternate Strat again given his association with Bat…. I'll take that if he publishes his schedule. I don't normally track individual artists but he forced himself in to my radar with his versatility and I'm keen to see what he does next. Same lol. |
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Post by 141920grm on Jul 13, 2024 12:30:23 GMT
If you've ever been to Southend, there's nothing to be prideful about Jokes aside, apparently the Southend leg hasn't been doing well. Seems like the Cliffs can't catch a break! I hope the recent absences haven't been because of that. Edit: Another thing you've got to think about is that this musical basically eats singers for breakfast lunch and dinner so I wouldn't be surprised if they'll start doing a revolving cast thing so they can rest for a day or two. Aaaah, Southend is alright! I used to do the car cruises in my late teens, beeping at the girls, giving it the 'oi oi' Engerland fan type banter. How times change... or maybe not... Anyway, I'm hoping Charlie overdoes it in the matinee and enables Luke to close Southend. Never been to the theatre before but it looks like it could be quite parochial and smell a little of OAPs. you can be a fan of one actor without constantly putting down the other- or wishing ill on them so you can see your preferred one- jeez |
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Post by ceebee on Jul 13, 2024 12:41:24 GMT
Aaaah, Southend is alright! I used to do the car cruises in my late teens, beeping at the girls, giving it the 'oi oi' Engerland fan type banter. How times change... or maybe not... Anyway, I'm hoping Charlie overdoes it in the matinee and enables Luke to close Southend. Never been to the theatre before but it looks like it could be quite parochial and smell a little of OAPs. you can be a fan of one actor without constantly putting down the other- or wishing ill on them so you can see your preferred one- jeez My point is that I've only seen the principle actor once in eight visits - out of all of them, I wanted to see Ian McIntosh. My reply was to the comment that JCS is vocally demanding and, this being the case, the proposed u/s could always switch. Obviously I wouldn't wish ill on anybody. |
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Post by Oleanna on Jul 13, 2024 12:45:28 GMT
If you've ever been to Southend, there's nothing to be prideful about Jokes aside, apparently the Southend leg hasn't been doing well. Seems like the Cliffs can't catch a break! I hope the recent absences haven't been because of that. Edit: Another thing you've got to think about is that this musical basically eats singers for breakfast lunch and dinner so I wouldn't be surprised if they'll start doing a revolving cast thing so they can rest for a day or two. Aaaah, Southend is alright! I used to do the car cruises in my late teens, beeping at the girls, giving it the 'oi oi' Engerland fan type banter. How times change... or maybe not... Anyway, I'm hoping Charlie overdoes it in the matinee and enables Luke to close Southend. Never been to the theatre before but it looks like it could be quite parochial and smell a little of OAPs. I'll give all my love to Southend… |
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Post by Alejo on Jul 13, 2024 14:08:53 GMT
Aaaah, Southend is alright! I used to do the car cruises in my late teens, beeping at the girls, giving it the 'oi oi' Engerland fan type banter. How times change... or maybe not... Anyway, I'm hoping Charlie overdoes it in the matinee and enables Luke to close Southend. Never been to the theatre before but it looks like it could be quite parochial and smell a little of OAPs. you can be a fan of one actor without constantly putting down the other- or wishing ill on them so you can see your preferred one- jeez Ooft, I’m getting flashbacks to the ‘Les Mis Concert at the Gielgud’ thread. I don’t think you afforded the same courtesy to Alfie Boe (or Michael Ball) when praising John Owen Jones (and Earl Carpenter). 😬 |
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Post by ceebee on Jul 13, 2024 19:54:13 GMT
Credit where it's due - Charlie and the whole cast are smashing it tonight. Absolutely brilliant first half.
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Post by blamerobots on Jul 13, 2024 20:00:14 GMT
Credit where it's due - Charlie and the whole cast are smashing it tonight. Absolutely brilliant first half. How's the audience? Mostly OAPs?
Also, there is NO backstage at the Cliffs. The back of that stage is genuinely the back wall, so I wonder how everything's fitting back there.
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Post by ceebee on Jul 13, 2024 20:08:02 GMT
Credit where it's due - Charlie and the whole cast are smashing it tonight. Absolutely brilliant first half. How's the audience? Mostly OAPs?
Also, there is NO backstage at the Cliffs. The back of that stage is genuinely the back wall, so I wonder how everything's fitting back there.
I reckon it's around 90% capacity. Around 35% OAP, 35% middle age 20% twenties 10% under twenties. This show suits the wide Southend stage. I'm pleased that my Bromley nightmare has been vanished and full credit to Charlie as Jesus because he is aceing it and I'm happy to stand corrected on my earlier initial disappointment. |
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Post by Seriously on Jul 13, 2024 20:19:44 GMT
How's the audience? Mostly OAPs?
Also, there is NO backstage at the Cliffs. The back of that stage is genuinely the back wall, so I wonder how everything's fitting back there.
I reckon it's around 90% capacity. Around 35% OAP, 35% middle age 20% twenties 10% under twenties. This show suits the wide Southend stage. I'm pleased that my Bromley nightmare has been vanished and full credit to Charlie as Jesus because he is aceing it and I'm happy to stand corrected on my earlier initial disappointment. Did the audience of OAPs smell, as you were worried? |
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Post by 141920grm on Jul 13, 2024 21:41:18 GMT
you can be a fan of one actor without constantly putting down the other- or wishing ill on them so you can see your preferred one- jeez Ooft, I’m getting flashbacks to the ‘Les Mis Concert at the Gielgud’ thread. I don’t think you afforded the same courtesy to Alfie Boe (or Michael Ball) when praising John Owen Jones (and Earl Carpenter). 😬 critically assessing someone's attendance/performance is completely different to wishing they become indisposed though, hope you know the difference  |
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Post by ceebee on Jul 13, 2024 22:31:44 GMT
I reckon it's around 90% capacity. Around 35% OAP, 35% middle age 20% twenties 10% under twenties. This show suits the wide Southend stage. I'm pleased that my Bromley nightmare has been vanished and full credit to Charlie as Jesus because he is aceing it and I'm happy to stand corrected on my earlier initial disappointment. Did the audience of OAPs smell, as you were worried? No, in fairness the air had a hint of lavender, though there was a bratty Augustina Gloop stuffing her chops behind me throughout. "Could We Start Again Please" has never sounded so good accompanied by the rustle of a plastic bag. |
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